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Bill Would Guarantee Up to 7 Paid Sick Days
New York Times ^ | May 15, 2009 | Steven Greenhouse

Posted on 05/15/2009 7:03:35 PM PDT by reaganaut1

A long-stalled effort to guarantee American workers paid sick days takes a big step forward Monday with the introduction of legislation by Congressional Democrats.

The proposal went nowhere during the presidency of George W. Bush, but as a senator and then a presidential candidate, Barack Obama backed it, and Michelle Obama embraced the idea last week in a talk to business leaders.

Now women’s groups, labor unions and other supporters are voicing optimism about its prospects.

“The last eight years, you kept clawing and scratching and didn’t get anywhere, but we have a real opportunity now,” said Representative Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, who along with Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts will introduce the measure. “There’s something wrong when people have to choose between their jobs and taking care of themselves or their families when someone is sick.”

Business groups are vowing to block the legislation, arguing that the recession makes this an inopportune time to create a new mandate that they say would raise costs for employers.

“Given that small businesses are barely able to keep their heads above water in this economy, we don’t think this is the right legislation to be pushing right now,” said Susan Eckerly, senior vice president at the National Federation of Independent Business, which represents small-business owners.

Supporters, on the other hand, say the legislation is especially timely now, given the swine flu epidemic.

The bill, the Healthy Families Act, would be binding on employers that had 15 or more workers. It would guarantee employees one paid hour off for each 30 hours worked, enabling them to earn up to seven paid sick days a year. They would be entitled to claim their days when they or a child, a parent, a spouse or someone else close to them became ill.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: healthyfamiliesact; sickleave
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To: brytlea

My present employer gives us 10 sick days a year which accrue if you don’t use them. I now have over 480 hours (60 days) accrued. I tell people I’m saving up for my first heart attack.


41 posted on 05/15/2009 8:32:19 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: reaganaut1

THey tried to push this through in Milwaukee. (It’s in the courts right now.) Immediately several restaurants closed their doors. Other employers negated all paid holidays. 7 paid holidays = 7 paid sick days. It’s a wash. I don’t know what happens when someone wants to work on Christmas and the business is closed that day.


42 posted on 05/15/2009 8:33:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Can I get a pony too? I’ve always wanted one! A unicorn would be better, but I’m willing to settle.

Mark


43 posted on 05/15/2009 9:01:42 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: reaganaut1

What a crock, don’t work, don’t get paid!!

Equivalent to produce to expectations or i’ll fire you!!!


44 posted on 05/15/2009 9:09:23 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: reaganaut1

More jobs overseas.....


45 posted on 05/15/2009 9:12:04 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Chet 99
It is funny how employees who get paid to be sick get sick a lot, while employers who lose money if they’re sick manage to tough it out through bouts of the sniffles.

I've never really understood how anyone would like taking days off of work for illness, unless something really is wrong. I felt really guilty about taking a day off of work about a month ago. I just wasn't feeling well, and felt like I was coming down the with flu, being dizzy and having thrown up a few times. Plus my foot hurt. Later in the day, I noticed the pain had spread, and my foot was swollen, and my leg was starting to swell and turn red to mid-calf. I was feeling really tired, so I laid down and took a nap. When I woke up a few hours later, the pain, redness, and swelling had gone past my knee. I called an "ask-a-nurse," and they told me to get to a hospital ER as quickly as possible. I drove myself to the local hospital, where they took a look at me, got me into the ER, and told me that I made it in just in time. My blood pressure was 70/45, temp was 101, and I had a white cell count of 39,000. They told me that I probably would have passed out within the next hour or so, and the infection (cellulitis) would have killed me. As it was, I was in the hospital on IV anti-biotics for 5 days, and told to stay at home for 2 more days, and I was on oral anti-biotics for another 2 weeks afterward. And as an added bonus, it seems to have screwed up my lymphatic system, because now I have "lymphadema" so I'm getting physical therapy twice a week for that! GRRRRRR.... It was rough, not being able to work.

Mark

46 posted on 05/15/2009 9:20:59 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: apillar

Good grief. Talk about Theory X hell. Or is this a low-skilled position?


47 posted on 05/15/2009 9:37:20 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: reaganaut1
Business groups are vowing to block the legislation, arguing that the recession makes this an inopportune time to create a new mandate that they say would raise costs for employers.

This kind of weak, sniveling, obsequious response is the reason that we lose. Rather than say that this is an egregious example of a thuggish and overreaching government, they just say that this is an 'inopportune time' for such thuggish and overreaching government.

If they are going to stand up for themselves, then they should do it for real...JFK

48 posted on 05/15/2009 9:37:49 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: reaganaut1

How about seven “Sick of Democrat Lunacy” days?


49 posted on 05/15/2009 9:38:00 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: bmwcyle
I have PTO (paid time off) which is an accrual arrangement. I get a certain percentage of time for every hour I work - usually adds up to an average of 5-6 hours per pay check. I can use that for vacation time or a day off which is scheduled ahead of time. PTO is also for sick days.

We also have the option of selling our PTO time back to the company at the end of the year.

50 posted on 05/15/2009 9:40:03 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: reaganaut1

The Democrat Employment Reduction Act

(1) Make it easier for employees to sue for discrimination — the “Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act”.

(2) Push for card check and mandatory arbitration. With Specter now a Dem, they may get it.

(3) Take no action to delay the increase in the minimum wage to $7.25 in July of this year.

(4) Proposed an employer mandate in their drive for universal coverage.

(5).. arent they also doing something on gay rights in the workplace aka ENDA, a lawyers bonanza

(6) Govt mandated sick leave


51 posted on 05/15/2009 9:42:26 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: linn37
Our policy (which is for a hospital) is that if you use more than 3 sick days in a 6-month period, you get written up. (If you had the flu or something bad and had to miss 2-3 or so days together, that counts as one sick day). If you ignore the warning and keep calling off more than that in a 6-month period, you can get sacked.

But they use a rolling 6-month period. For instance, if you called off January 2nd, on July 3rd, that call-off would be deleted from the new current 6-month period.

Due to the nature of the hospital business, they really can't afford to have workers who have responsibility for sick patients call off willy-nilly every time they want to party or just don't feel like working today. And in this business, it's also a very detrimental added burden to the staff who do come in to work.

52 posted on 05/15/2009 9:50:24 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: OrangeHoof

“I now have over 480 hours (60 days) accrued. I tell people I’m saving up for my first heart attack.”

Hope you never have to use them that way. My husband had upwards of 80 days last year. Got him through a triple bypass and a bout with bladder cancer.

I on the other hand get no sick days and have no health insurance. I get a major illness or injury and we’re screwed.


53 posted on 05/15/2009 10:07:12 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Frank_2001

My thought when I read the Article.

Just stop at 14 employees or less!

Sigh............


54 posted on 05/15/2009 10:16:32 PM PDT by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: conservative cat

“A lot of those people without paid sick time have customer contact and/or food service jobs. Yeah, I really want THEM sick.”

Exactly. Many people have to go to work sick, because they can’t afford to lose even one day’s pay. They should be home in bed. Instead, they are out spreading germs to others and doing themselves no good either...even prolonging the illness by not resting at home and recovering.

Not so many years ago, life was normal. Sick people stayed at home and got well. Then they went back to work.

These days are different. Much of the blame for this can go to many employers who don’t care about the employee-—all they care about is the employee coming to work, sick or not. So, now we have people everywhere dragging into work sick, getting other employees and customers sick. And all because they are “expected” to be there.

Believe it or not, many people do live paycheck to paycheck. If their employers will not provide a few paid sick days a year, maybe this bill will help them out. I believe that is the spirit of the bill...not so much a power grab for more government control, but to help people who really need it.


55 posted on 05/15/2009 10:18:59 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Chet 99
It is funny how employees who get paid to be sick get sick a lot, while employers who lose money if they’re sick manage to tough it out through bouts of the sniffles.

While it may seem like that, there is also an attitude re the sick policies that works against human nature, and the result is counterintuitive.

When I worked in HR in a Swiss company, the laws in that country guarantee pay to any employee who is truly ill up to 2 years. After 3 days they needed a note from a doctor. Employees could stay home for weeks and get paid, but since they always knew that, they were almost ashamed to stay home ever. Socially it was like saying you were a total loser if you didn't come to work for more than a day or so with an illness. I had to literally send feverish workers HOME so they would not infect the rest of the company.

There is truly an attitude here of "getting something over on the boss" that maybe would not be in existence if they knew they'd be paid for all sickness that a doctor would excuse. People would man up instead of taking sick days. I know it SOUNDS like people would take more advantage, but the system here is so heartless that actually it sets employers and employees at severe odds.

56 posted on 05/15/2009 10:22:07 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: reaganaut1
The bill, the Healthy Families Plundered Company Act,...

There, fixed it.

57 posted on 05/15/2009 10:26:48 PM PDT by theymakemesick (You may be a terrorist if you went to church last Sunday or think "shall not be infringed" means it)
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To: apillar

Re: Your post 30. If I were a business owner and this were crammed down my throat, I’d do just that!!! I’d also emphasize that it was the “administration” that was responsible for it and why their policies are wrong.


58 posted on 05/15/2009 10:43:49 PM PDT by theymakemesick (You may be a terrorist if you went to church last Sunday or think "shall not be infringed" means it)
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To: reaganaut1
Currently, the company I work for has a policy of no formal limits on sick leave. It is up to a manager's discretion if the policy is being abused. If they are concerned, then they can start asking for doctor's notes, etc. But, the default behavior is to trust.

Wanna bet that after this is passed, I get a limit of 7/yr?

59 posted on 05/15/2009 10:47:44 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: reaganaut1

Way to kill capitalism and small business!


60 posted on 05/15/2009 10:58:15 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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