Bill Clinton would have... 
thrown a hissy fit! Every asprin factory in India would be a smoking hole in the ground. Monica would have not walked right for a week. But Europe would have loved us!
Posted on 05/15/2009 1:08:17 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins
Thanks Ernest. So what’s the problem?
I read an analysis back in the 1980s that wargaming a hot conflict between these two countries came to the same conclusion.
Ya know, the Brits really screwed the pooch for everybody on the Indian sub-continentant when they willy nilly partitioned it into Muslim and Hindu nations back in 1947.
I wonder how the Indian Army would have dealt with the Taliban back in the 1990s?
Maybe no 9-11, no Mumbai, no Kashmir insurgency?
Bill Clinton would have... thrown a hissy fit! Every asprin factory in India would be a smoking hole in the ground. Monica would have not walked right for a week. But Europe would have loved us!
>>willy nilly partitioned it into Muslim and Hindu nations back in 1947.
Not quite willy nilly, sir, but looking at strategic imperatives as perceived at that time - India’s leadership being of the “nonaligned” tendency at the time, while Pakistan’s as being more firmly ProWest, allied with Saudi Arabia/USA at a time when Stalin was ascendant in the world.
Secondly, playing to Islami Deobandi foibles and tendencies, in not wanting to be part of a majority Hindu population state with a distinct secular mindset. Hindu India, correct, but also a state appparatus firmly neutral, in fact, rather solicitious, too much at times of Muslim sensitivities.
Historical nits, now.
>>Indian Army would have dealt with the Taliban back in the 1990s?
Look on the bright side.
We may even find out....some reports have mentioned that the entire Pakistan offense is a bigger charade than we think, since the Army has allowed Talibs to exfiltrate EAST, towards India and the Kashmir border, not to mention south in to the Punjab (one blast while back was only a few miles from the border).
Anyway with Pakistan gone, imagine an economic transformation along a KabulKalkuttaKolombo Axis! (LTTE just died, hopefully)
Well, old sport, between the June 3, 1947, Mountbatten Plan for partition and the final passage of the Indian Independence Act on July 18, 1947 by the British Parliament that finalized the arrangement, I think one could use the term willy nilly with more than complete justification.
It could happen.
David Warren has written of his childhood in the post-war Pakistan of the 19502 when the sensibilities were much like India's
But I don't think we will get there, until a terrifying lesson, a la August 1945, is impressed upon the wild frontier of that region.
That was the overt British diplomatic, public effort.
However, there is an interesting anecdote out there that indicates Pakistan was already on a path to creation a few years before.
The entire leadership of the Indian Congress was in jail; but Jinnah of the Muslim League was not, even though Muslim members of the Congress werer in jail.
Jinnah, sipping scotch, chomping on ham sandwiches met in Bombay with an emissary from FDR, an unnamed senior member of the OSS on one of those quiet missions that FDR found effective and were practical means of hammering complex issues out. The meeting went all afternoon after lunch.
This was in 1943, and IMO, mind you - the genesis of Pakistan as a reality even though the idea had been mooted around prior to that.
Primary reason being that the USA wished a strong AntiSoviet ally in the region, a role Pakistan faithfully played for 50 years, from allowing U2 flights from Peshawar, being a springboard for the rapprochement with China - Kissinger’s flight to Beijing left from Islamabad, and the crowning jewel, the antiSoviet Jihad conducted from Pakistan in the 80’s.
God only knows what Jimmy Cater Two, The Øbamanation, will leave us in his wake. I foresee one or more terrorists nuke strikes here at home plus many dead in Israel due to his mishandling of Iran and the whole Muzzie problem.
To paraphrase what Mark Twain said, "It is sure going to be one Hell of a Heaven when all those religious leaders ge up there!"
If I find Obama there... 
I'm asking for a transfer!
>>Yes, I’ve read of that anecdote
Whoa! That’s quite a history buff’s type of nugget.
For the life of me, I cannot remember the name of the book it was in, will have to go through my list at some time.
Plus the name of the book is somewhere over the rainbow with the correct names of all my old girlfriends from those same day!
But I do recall Judy Ann Green! Gadzooks, do I ever remember her in all her 19 year old miniskirt glory--
Back on topic, a part of my brain is saying it also popped up in one or more source materials I went through for an extra credit paper I wrote on the OSS & CIA in Indo-China for a Current (at the time - early 1970s) Events Seminar I aced. I, too, do not retain as much of it as I should.
That confessed, I still feel I could off the cuff teach a pretty accurate college level class on World History Since 1939.
Of course, with the knowledge base of our current crop of brain addled, know-nothings under 50... you don't need to know much!
History, who cares, they’re all dead anyway!
I’ve been shocked at some of the statements I’ve heard from teachers who teach glop like social studies and whatnot, it’s a shame history and geography have been relegated to a fuzzy mishmash, enlightening no one and more importantly, feeding disinterest instead of the opposite.
That seems to be... 
The Øbamanation's opinion of 9/11!
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