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Dems Try Desperately To Cut and Run From “Torture” Debate
Flopping Aces ^ | Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 5:18 pm | Scott

Posted on 05/14/2009 9:58:11 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Several Video clips at the website...starting with Schumer...

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Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat, backed Pelosi.

“I think it’s a tempest in a teapot really to say: Well, Speaker Pelosi should have known all of this, she should have stopped this, she should have done this or done that,” she said.

“I don’t want to make an apology for anybody, but in 2002, it wasn’t 2006, 07, 08 or 09. It was right after 9/11, and there were in fact discussions about a second wave of attacks.”

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Obama clip on his latest 180,,,

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1) Dems KNEW (Hot Air has a great example of for/against/for/against dance done by political partisan posterboy Chuck Schumer)
2) Dems KNOW it worked
3) Dems have covered their complicity and ignorance regarding the war on terror since before 911, and have done so primarily by attacking Republicans and using them as scapegoats…all the while they were doing the exact same things, supporting the same measures behind closed doors, funding CIA prison programs in Intelligence Appropriations bills, and then pretending to be on some moral high ground.

They tried to distract from their own incompetence again by releasing the “torture memos” to shift discussion away from insane levels of spending with no results (even worse results). They miscalculated. They forgot that they have unchecked power, and thus unchecked accountability.

Now they’re trying to run away from the topic lest it get more press that they knew about “torture” and railed against it. Worse yet, if the press starts to look at who knew what/when…people might see that yeah, Democrats KNEW about pre-war intel on Iraq, and it wasn’t a case of Bushliedpeopledied (the timeline is 100% clear on this as are the bi-partisan investigations and reports). People might actually realize that Sen Rockefeller misled about a lack of WMD threat because he KNEW what was found. Sen Levin misled about regime ties to Al Queda because he’d been briefed too. All these briefings took place around the same time the torture briefings did. Dems want to back outta that research alley FAST.

The problem is…their base won’t let em.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 111th; ciainterrogation; ciainterrogationmemo; democratcongress; democrats; pelosi; waterboarding
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fiddlstix; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; potlatch; devolve; MEG33; Grampa Dave; ...

WHAT did they know ... and when did they know it ?? :)


41 posted on 05/14/2009 10:19:30 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: Islander7

Will the REAL Nan “Politburo” Pelosi PLEASE stand up?!?!?


42 posted on 05/14/2009 10:22:21 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; devolve
Fox’s Carl Cameron summed it up best after Nancy’s disastrous presser earlier today:

“Republicans are blood-thirsty-—they believe they can really mess Pelosi up on this one.”

I think Cammeroney is pushing a bean with his nose on this one--

--namely, Mess Pelosi is doing it all by herself.

43 posted on 05/15/2009 12:17:59 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo; Grampa Dave; writer33; maggief; Ann Archy; Condor51; calcowgirl; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ..
Pelosi is doing it all by herself (not being helped in her destruction by Republicans).........

But don't you just love to consider that John Boehner or Lindsey Graham might have said to Nancy behind the scenes:

"It's time Nancy. We gotta get Bush. We are all in this together. You oughta have a press conderence on how the CIA lied to you." And Nancy said, " Gee, thanks, that's a great idea."

ROTFL.

44 posted on 05/15/2009 6:31:22 AM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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To: Liz
What I don't get is this..
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat, backed Pelosi. ... “I think it’s a tempest in a teapot really to say: Well, Speaker Pelosi should have known all of this, she should have stopped this, she should have done this or done that,” she said. ... “I don’t want to make an apology for anybody, but in 2002, it wasn’t 2006, 07, 08 or 09. It was right after 9/11, and there were in fact discussions about a second wave of attacks.”
Now isn't is San Fran Nan and the RATS who've created this " tempest in a teapot " over interrogation techniques? And so what if this is 2009 and what 'we' (CIA) did occurred in 2002? That's only seven years, whoop-dee-doo. Sheesh, it's not like the CIA was using the Rack, the Iron Maiden and Hot Pokers to an eyeball like in the 1400's. Now that would raise some concerns. /s

BTW, if I was Nan I wouldn't go around calling the CIA liars like she did yesterday. The last US pol who ticked off the CIA was JFK, and we know how that turned out. So if I was Nan I'd be apologizing to the CIA today -- and avoid taking any rides in convertibles for the near future.

45 posted on 05/15/2009 6:56:33 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: PhilDragoo
Yep!

When a 'Rat is committing political suicide,
it's best to leave them alone. Just stand back
and enjoy!


46 posted on 05/15/2009 7:13:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: Condor51
.....if I were Nan I'd be apologizing to the CIA and would avoid riding in convertibles for the near future..........

I hear she's hiring a food taster.

47 posted on 05/15/2009 8:08:38 AM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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