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To: GulfBreeze

> Are you joking?

No I’m not joking.

> These guys are criminals

Innocent until proven guilty.

> and they just destroyed property

They were abating a public nuisance in the only way they could. City Hall does that every weekend when it confiscates and destroys stereos that are played too loud. Or would you like the Police to roar around your neighborhood at low altitude in a noisy helicopter anytime they pleased, just in case one of your neighbors had committed an unspecified crime?

When did you become in favor of arbitrary police surveillance?

> that was paid for by the hard work of millions who each paid taxes.

As a taxpayer I’d be furious. At the Police. They bought an expensive toy needlessly for the purposes of harassing the Gypsies and helping with traffic fines. They need their budgets cut back severely, and they need their helicopter put on e-Bay, Sarah-Palin-style. They don’t need it, and they’ve misused it.

> They are criminals and needed to be watched as their behavior has shown.

If the police did that to you, on that flimsy rationale, you would sue them for millions.

Gypsies have the same rights to privacy and peaceful enjoyment as you or me or anyone else.


54 posted on 05/14/2009 8:05:39 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Is someone missing you on DU? You universally dislike all police and police departments?

Are you then a fan of the poor oppressed Somali pirates?

How about the Heinekin and bluejean Walmart raider guy from the Katrina aftermath?


63 posted on 05/14/2009 8:27:28 AM PDT by GulfBreeze
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To: DieHard the Hunter
If the police did that to you, on that flimsy rationale, you would sue them for millions.Gypsies have the same rights to privacy and peaceful enjoyment as you or me or anyone else.

Yes,I spent a total of about two weeks in NZ...mostly touring your lovely countryside (and visiting Rotorua...oh,the smell!) so I didn't pay much attention to whatever gang problem the country might have.I must say that I am surprised to hear you,a Guardian Angel,say that you have little problem with their sometimes violent ways...even if that violence is only among themselves.My understanding is that the Guardian Angels were originally formed in New York City to counter the violence in the subway.I've always assumed that the Angels' Charter would come out strongly against any kind of wanton violence or theft.But I could be wrong...

As for "privacy" and "peaceful enjoyment"...the circles in which *I* travel are not made up of criminals.I know of *no* member of my family or group of friends who have ever been charged with...let alone convicted of...anything more serious than a minor traffic violation.So,given that,I'd say we have a reasonable expectation of not being subjected to any kind of extraordinary police surveillance/monitoring.OTOH,I think that members of the Mafia,for example,can have no such expectation.Yes,it's true that gypsy clans aren't typically as bad as the Mafia,but.....

67 posted on 05/14/2009 8:35:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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