Posted on 05/13/2009 10:56:07 AM PDT by SJackson
Like the Tax Code, socialized medicine will be used as a weapon too.
America being advanced in terms of medical research, second generation treatments won't be developed, at least in America, if first generation treatments, and their profits, are eliminated.
Social Security and Medicare will go broke unless the retiring baby boomers start dying a lot earlier than they have been. Rationing government health care will take care of that problem. More government power and fewer beneficiaries is a win/win for the collectivists.
But it’s for the children!
Where will the world go for its top-tier medical needs when the US has joined them in second-tier status?
Social Security and Medicare will go broke unless the retiring baby boomers start dying a lot earlier than they have been. Rationing government health care will take care of that problem. More government power and fewer beneficiaries is a win/win for the collectivists.
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SS and Medicare do not need to go broke. Given what Obama is willing to spend on everything for his empowerment, THE TRILLIONS, he can keep it solvent. Marxists want power over EVERYTHING, including your life. See the old movie, “SOYLENT GREEN” that starred Charlton Heston. A great example of “universal healthcare” — or just ask any British citizen.
Despite Daschle, Health Reform To Be a ‘Central Focus’ of Obama Budget (Too old? Too bad.)
Depends on how the program is structured. Britain has a good private hospital system, you simply have to pay for treatment or buy insurance. A private system might be able to coexist. I've heard speculation that large hospital corporations might set up hospitals offshore. It would be on your dime, but treatment would be available, and in depressed areas like the Caribbean, locals and immigrant professionals could do jobs that American's can't do due to government edit. A market will develop for those who can afford treatment, for those can't, look on the bright side, by dying they'll boost the sustainability of social security.
The government will determine who gets to live and who gets to die. The family will have no say in the matter.
Bureaucracies will decide if granny gets her medication or not. "Big Brother" will decide if you need that operation or not. Government knows best, after all. As long as Americans don't care about their rights and responsibilities, the government will continue to take them from us.
It's sickening. Quite literally.
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Oh, that video is him speaking before the Senate !!
When wait-listed at over a year-—Sick Canadians can always come here for treatment and they do by the thousands.
Where will Americans go when the time comes and the wait list is over 10 + months...?
As long as you can afford it, you’ll be able to find treatment overseas. If you can’t afford it, wait ten months.
“The government will determine who gets to live and who gets to die.”
The real 0bama/Democrat plan. Conservatives and Republicans first, followed by all DHSers.
Setting up overseas “hospice” clinics for Americans could well be one of the greatest opportunities “created” by 0bama et al. Think about it. An HMO sets up shop somewhere in the Caribbean and either buys or partners with an exiting hotel. It wouldn’t even have to be a super AAA hotel, it could just be “nice”. I’m talking about a serious, high quality medical facility and rehab hospital. With an affiliated resort, of course! It could become a “faddish” way to take care of elders on track to die. The families could stay at the resorts while the elders are placed in comfortable rehab. Such a resort could attract high quality doctors, and would already be mostly built. It’s a great idea, if I say so myself.
“In cancer treatment, my specialty, the next generation of medicines could eliminate the need for time-consuming, expensive and unpleasant chemo and radiotherapy. These treatments mean less would have to be spent later on expensive hospitalization and surgery.”
Prior to 1940 the number one killer was pneumonia. After penicillin pneumonia became little more than a nuisance. Ditto tuberculosis, polio, gonorrhea, .......
New drugs like Herceptin or Sutent are expensive because of Research and Development costs. As R&D costs are recovered, sales will increase. This will allow the use of much less expensive mass production techniques which will bring still lower costs. These drugs will be come less expensive with time.
The real danger in government employing “comparative effectiveness research” as a means of literally holding the power of life or death over each of their constituents is that our bureaucrats and politicians may actually be too stupid and clueless to understand that they too will be affected.
It will be a tragedy if pharmaceuticals become just another static commodity business with pills being cranked out in static third world economies just as cures for cancer are on the verge of being realized.
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That already exists in some places. It’s a great idea, particularly if high deductable, catastrophic were available. Of course non-US health care concerns would have a distinct advantage, since BHO wants American companies paying US income tax on offshore income, but no matter. But not to die, to get treatment. I’d pay for insurance with a $10m or $20m deductable if enabled me to get necessary cancer or heart treatment at Mayo-Aruba in a week, vs 90 days in the US. Or if the treatment wasn’t available in the US. Obviously the higher the deductable, the fewer patients, but I suspect it could be done in the $5m to $25m range.
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