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To: r9etb
Well I think it is exactly what Byrd was saying. (I pointed out what I thought was his overstatement though).

Let me substitute one word “demonstrated” for “admitted”.

“Hence, per Byrd, the APA by their ACTIONS have demonstrated that there is no gay gene.”

Just as you might refer to a set of inanimate objects and the facts around them as “saying” something, the use of “saying” or “admitting” simply indicates what is demonstrated by the APA’s change given the set of facts surrounding it.

I think it is all semantics really and feel that you are attacking the messenger. The fact is that APA has made fools of themselves, again, by referencing unproven, unrepeated, shoddy studies to promote an agenda (and vaguely without specific reference at that). They now have to back off what they did with another vague statement filled with generalities and undocumented “consensus” type verbiage.

It doesn't matter whether its Byrd or anyone else that points it out, that is the fact of what is happening. It is only natural for people who have been marginalized as “narrow minded” and “unscientific” to want to crow a bit when they see one of the references used against them for so long be reversed or rescinded. Especially when by definition it is rescinded to the incompetent manner in which it was placed into the lexicon of thought and discussion to begin with.

IMHO

70 posted on 05/13/2009 8:40:43 AM PDT by GulfBreeze
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To: GulfBreeze
I think it is all semantics really and feel that you are attacking the messenger.

In this case the messenger is being dishonest ... so, yeah, I'll attack him.

The fact is that APA has made fools of themselves, again, by referencing unproven, unrepeated, shoddy studies to promote an agenda (and vaguely without specific reference at that). They now have to back off what they did with another vague statement filled with generalities and undocumented “consensus” type verbiage.

As my mom used to say, "two wrongs don't make a right." Messrs. Unruh and Byrd are making similarly shoddy assertions.

If the APA was wrong, that doesn't make these two guys right. They can be dishonest as well -- and I believe that's exactly what they are.

82 posted on 05/13/2009 9:40:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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