Posted on 05/12/2009 5:39:13 AM PDT by RobinMasters
I daresay it wouldn't.
Nah, that'll never work. We need to keep moving left to attract moderate voters. Because that's worked so well for us in the past.
/do I need it?
But you discount that someone can become conservative over time. You don’t want any formerly liberal voters or politicians if I read your original post correctly. That is a pretty severe limit.
That is a good point. After all, isn't that pretty much what Ronald Reagan was?
And then you run the risk of having those who go in the other direction, start out good, but end up as whacked out lefties, like Goldwater unfortunately did (I still say it was that 20-something blonde he was with, however, influencing him).
Goldwater even in his later years still seems like an ideal candidate for current realities. A hawkish libertarian isn’t a bad thing. That at least is my understanding of what you would be talking about. I was the ripe old age of 3 when he left office.
Sad fact is that nearly half the voting population doesn't pay taxes. Most have no more understanding of what it takes create wealth and sustain society than the Cargo Cultists in the Southwest Pacific do. They think wealth is created by “magic” and that the “evil rich” are hoarding more than their “fair share.” Their “Messiah,” Obama is going to make the “evil rich” cough up their stolen wealth for redistribution.
And these people vote; and if they don't vote, ACORN and the Democrat machines will make sure their “votes” get counted anyway.
Obama is delivering on the Democratic fantasy spending programs and is giving away “free stuff” like his upcoming “free health care.” He has the media completely on his side and has no compunctions about “playing rough” with anyone who tries to defy him. This is going to carry him a long way.
Frankly, we'll be lucky if there IS a recognizable, somewhat conservative, Republican Party after Obama is done with them in 2010 and 2012. More likely, there are going to be “Bolsheviks” (Democrats) and “Mensheviks” (’Pubbies).
Well, that'd be better than what we have now, but all the same, a guy who leaned as far left on social issues as Goldwater did later in life would be absolute electoral poison for the GOP. He'd lose his entire base, and go down in flames as badly as he did in 1964.
"Every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass."
That quote is from 1981. Only 17 years after his presidential run and years before he even met his second wife, a 50-something blond. Closer than we are now to the Reagan years.
Goldwater didn't change.
Your reply proves my point, once a rat, always a rat. I don’t hear conservatives on here talking about changing their morals then telling people to “fornicate” themselves, sounds like something you would hear on DU.
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Look junior, I apologize if I managed to step on some long suppressed psychosis, and I have no desire to start a flame war. Lets just leave it at that.
I am not a “Right Wing Christian Fundamentatist”, but I am very much a conservative. If you insist that everyone with views different from your own is a DU mole, then I need to get to my broker and have him buy me some more shares in Reynolds. :-)
Thank you for the update. I see Goldwater's senility started even earlier than I had thought.
No, I believe in beating democrats which ALL voted for AIG exec bailouts and spending this country into debt 4x, you democrat fraud. You speak like a loser.
Of course, that's not going to count at all the voters like me, who will never show up on the books of any party, because none of them truly represent me.
I've voted with the GOP in the last several elections, but I'll never join it. Too many people in there doing the same as the libs/Dems, telling me that they know the 'TRUTH' and I should live my life a certain way.
No,I'll keep my own personal freedom, and my own personal responsibility for my own choices, thank you.
Reagan had been a Democrat.
Easy. Some of us were born on the liberal mind control plantation and had to find our way past the razor wire all by our lonesomes.
Even Reagan was once a Democrat. Don't condemn everyone who's found their way out of the darkness.
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