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Taleban using white phosphorus, some of it made in Britain
The Times(UK) ^ | 05/12/09 | Michael Evans

Posted on 05/11/2009 8:53:56 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Taleban using white phosphorus, some of it made in Britain

An eight-year-old girl, injured during an airstrike in the Afghan village of Garni in western Farah province, recovering in hospital in Herat city

Michael Evans, Defence Editor

Taleban fighters have been using deadly white phosphorus munitions, some of them manufactured in Britain, to attack Western forces in Afghanistan, according to previously classified United States documents released yesterday.

White phosphorus, which can burn its victims down to the bone, has been found in improvised explosive devices (IEDs) in regions across Afghanistan including in the south, where British troops are based. It has also been used in mortar and rocket attacks on American forces.

Last night the US military in Kabul condemned the use of white phosphorus by the insurgents as “reprehensible”. White phosphorus is banned as an offensive weapon under international rules of armed conflict.

Major Jennifer Willis, a spokeswoman for the US Army at Bagram, near Kabul, said that markings on some of the white phosphorus munitions that had been recovered showed that they had been manufactured in a number of different countries, including Britain, China, Russia and Iran.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; chemicalwarfare; taliban; whitephosphorus; williepete
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1 posted on 05/11/2009 8:53:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Cindy; AdmSmith

Ping!


2 posted on 05/11/2009 8:54:21 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Well ya know. Two can play the Willy Peter game.

I can see the M-15 boxes being trucked up front now.

3 posted on 05/11/2009 9:01:57 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
White phosphorus is banned as an offensive weapon under international rules of armed conflict.

Totally bogus. No it is not.

4 posted on 05/11/2009 9:02:34 PM PDT by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Unlike possible Israeli uses of white phosphorus on Islamic terrorists, the Taliban using it on innocent civilians is completely legitimate.

/leftard


5 posted on 05/11/2009 9:02:41 PM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Notice how the Times uses a photo of an Aghani girl wounded presumably by an American air strike instead of a victim of the Taliban’s use of white phosphorus.

typical British anti-Americanism!


6 posted on 05/11/2009 9:06:01 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: killjoy

It’s not considered a chemical weapon?


7 posted on 05/11/2009 9:13:47 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: killjoy
Willey Peter is indeed alive and well. And the Taliban will soon feel what its like to know the term:" Right back Atcha!"


8 posted on 05/11/2009 9:14:19 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s still not too late to effectively pursue the
“self-illuminating glass-bottomed parking lot” option...


9 posted on 05/11/2009 9:19:56 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Left leaning ABC, CBS, the AP, NYT, MSNBC, CNN, Amnesty International, etc. is on this where? Frakin’ hypocrities.


10 posted on 05/11/2009 9:28:09 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Patriotic1
It’s not considered a chemical weapon?

It is an incendiary device. It is not considered a chemical weapon since it is not primarily designed to cause death/injury through a toxic process.

11 posted on 05/11/2009 9:47:31 PM PDT by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

OK then return the favor and nape their asses.


12 posted on 05/11/2009 10:00:06 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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To: headstamp 2

I’ll take Naptha/Palm oil (Napalm) for $100 Alex.


13 posted on 05/11/2009 10:07:19 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: headstamp 2

Stick thermite grenades where the sun don’t shine.


14 posted on 05/11/2009 11:49:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Patriotic1

No, WP is not a chemical and it is not a weapon of mass destruction. Chemical warfare is not banned simply because it is a chemical. When used as a military weapon its purpose is to kill lots of people stealthily and indescriminantly. The fact that that chemical weapons are often invisible or otherwise hard to detect creates an additional terror element.

WP’s purpose is to specifically kill or wound the people who are shooting at you. And it’s dispersal radius is limited by the kind of round that delivers it. In addition, it does not have a residual kill potential. For instance, chemical and biologicals can be made with relatively long lethality times. They linger on the ground or cling to vegetation and structures. Tactically, they are used to deny certain terrain to the enemy and/or channel the enemy to go in certain directions. Unlike chemicals or biologicals, WP does not depend on wind currents for dispersal.

And, as someone else has said, it is not banned—at least as far as I know. This was a made up story by the media. In any case, it looks like the Taliban was using the WP in the first place—some of it came from Britain.

So the leftist propaganda mill continues to produce its anti-American drivel.


15 posted on 05/12/2009 4:40:51 AM PDT by dools007
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To: dools007
I thought WP’s purpose was to make thick, white smoke, very fast. And since its "hot" you can't see through it with a thermal imager. The incendiary side effects are just a bonus.
16 posted on 05/12/2009 4:46:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

WHEN did they ban WP??? It must have been AFTER Vietnam!


17 posted on 05/12/2009 5:56:50 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Yikes...'Wooly Pete' is some nasty stuff..

Stay safe, troops.

18 posted on 05/12/2009 6:16:02 AM PDT by Fedupwithit (This is it? This has where "progress" has taken us?)
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To: Little Ray

WP was around eons longer than thermal imagers. But, yes, it can be used to defeat thermal imagers. It’s original purpose was to “encourage” dug in enemy soldiers to surrender. Burning to death is a very unpleasant way to go. And when a piece of phosphorous embeds itself in your body it is not only excruciatingly painful, it is also continuing to consume your body. It is very hard for medics to deal with on the battlefield since they risk burning themselves when trying to excise the WP.

WP is also an excellent method for the ordinary combat soldier to destroy arms, ammo, material and food caches. Pile the stuff up, throw in some WP and eventually the pile will blow up. Naturally, it is not a good idea to stand around and watch for the big event.


19 posted on 05/12/2009 9:10:04 AM PDT by dools007
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To: dools007

I know. When I was in the artillery, mixed HE and WP was called “shake and bake.” You used it soft targets like trucks. The HE breaks them open, the WP burns them down.

However, the primary use of WP was smoke. It generates lots of smoke fast. Anti-material use was secondary.

I think there is something in the Geneva Convention that outlaws its use against personnel targets, but it doesn’t really matter, because its allows its use against material targets (like uniforms, web gear, weapons, and helmets...).


20 posted on 05/12/2009 9:29:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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