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Is America about to go broke? (Government obligations are much worse than you probably think)
MSN Money ^ | 5/11/2009 | Scott Burns

Posted on 05/11/2009 10:32:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Government obligations for Social Security and Medicare may soon exceed the combined net worth of every household and nonprofit organization in the country.

Prices dropped last year. But we still need to invest to protect ourselves from inflation. That's why our retirement-plan investing needs an inflation "tilt." You'll understand why in a few paragraphs.

How bad will future inflation be? I don't know. Neither does anyone else. It could be a normal inflation of 3% to 4% a year. It could also be a banana-republic 10% a month.

What we know is that all governments make promises they can't fulfill. Our government certainly has. Under both political parties, it has taken promise making to a high art. This is not hyperbole. The figures can be found in regularly published government reports.

Much worse than you probably think

The figures exist, but they are ignored. News reports regularly inform us of the growing federal deficit, projected at a stunning $1.75 trillion for fiscal 2009 and $1.17 trillion for 2010. But regularly reported, less visible government obligations have been growing much faster.

In the nearly five years from January 2003 to December 2007, the Medicare trustees reported that the unfunded liabilities of Social Security and Medicare grew by a stunning $10.4 trillion. The average annual growth topped $2 trillion.

That exceeds the expected formal deficit of $1.75 trillion this year.

In the 2008 trustees' report (.pdf file), the unfunded liabilities of Social Security and Medicare -- promises of future retirement and health care benefits -- total $42.9 trillion. In a few days, we should be able to read the 2009 report. It's a good bet that the unfunded liabilities will show an increase in the new report.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; broke; govwatch; medicare; socialinsecurity; socialism; socialsecurity; thecomingdepression; usa; usssa
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1 posted on 05/11/2009 10:32:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.


2 posted on 05/11/2009 10:33:31 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: SeekAndFind

“all governments make promises they can’t fulfill”

but some more than others.


3 posted on 05/11/2009 10:34:46 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: rabscuttle385

(Government obligations are much worse than you probably think)

That’s really depressing as I figure Obama had already sold the souls of all my great-great grandchildren’s souls!


4 posted on 05/11/2009 10:36:31 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Broke?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Alan Greenspan & Ben Bernanke & Hank Paulson & L'il Timmy Geithner can just dial up the presses to "11" and print us some more $$$s and everything will be fine-n-dandy like it always is.

Relax. Chill out. Pass the tequila. Party on, dudes.

5 posted on 05/11/2009 10:36:33 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: SeekAndFind

Last week’s rally was smoke and mirrors. If no one stops zero from plunging the nation into trillions of dollars in debt, it will take decades to recover. But hey, he’s cool and has high approval ratings so he can do whatever the hell he wants. When he falls, the MSM goes down with him.


6 posted on 05/11/2009 10:37:03 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: SeekAndFind
"Breaking America -- yes sir. And how!"
7 posted on 05/11/2009 10:37:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SeekAndFind

If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.
— H L Mencken


8 posted on 05/11/2009 10:37:40 AM PDT by Lexington Green (''No Taxation Without Birth Certification'' -- Unknown FReeper)
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To: SeekAndFind

The state feeds on the predation of production until production can no longer sustain the appetite of the State. Production declines to the point of subsistence as their is no incentive beyond this and when a crisis hits, the State has no means with which to survive.


9 posted on 05/11/2009 10:37:46 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Is America About To Go Broke?"

I think a much better question to ask would be "Is America About To Go Broke On Purpose?"

Sure seems like there are people wanting it to with the decisions that are being made.

10 posted on 05/11/2009 10:38:17 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: SeekAndFind
I was worried before the latest $1.8T in wasteful deficit spending, when I thought Obama might go as irresponsibly high as $600B.

My vote? Bring back the Tenth Amendment and stop all federal spending outside the enumerated powers in the Constitution (other than moral obligations such as retirement for federal workers and social security for those who paid for that promise). That's the right answer.

Obama's answer? He'll continue to spend less responsibly than the worst drunken sailor in history, then leave it to our children to figure out what to do about the debt. At least China will get stuck with the tab when we default; they deserve it for enabling the massive spending by trusting Obama and Pelosi.

11 posted on 05/11/2009 10:39:49 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Quick! Everyone sign over your paychecks to help out. Oh, never mind.


12 posted on 05/11/2009 10:39:52 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: SeekAndFind

When will they start telling not to even apply for Social Security?


13 posted on 05/11/2009 10:40:19 AM PDT by unkus
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Ding, Ding, Ding...

Paging Rick Waggoner...

At least he tried to contain cost and turn things around.

GM was the warning shot for SSI, Medicare and Medicade, and no one wants to acknowledge that.

14 posted on 05/11/2009 10:40:33 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

Social Security implosion 2010

http://bluelori.blogspot.com/2009/04/social-security-explosion-2010.html


15 posted on 05/11/2009 10:40:34 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's way past "about to".

Even the ignorant and stupid MSM informed Americans are about to figure it out.

16 posted on 05/11/2009 10:40:34 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (It's obvious from Nancy Pelosi's appearance that she tortures people every day.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is America about to go broke?

It's been broke, it's just that public perception is finally beginning to wake up and realize it. When that realization hits critical mass, then is when we'll see the SHTF scenario come about. The only thing holding that back for the moment is blind trust.

17 posted on 05/11/2009 10:40:35 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (I'm all for cap & trade. I want to cap government's power and trade it for a conservative one.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


18 posted on 05/11/2009 10:42:02 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is America going broke...NO, America is broke!


19 posted on 05/11/2009 10:42:07 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Some more figures commercial real estate KA BOOM

http://www2.standardandpoors.com/spf/pdf/media/CMBS_Quarterly_April_09.pdf


20 posted on 05/11/2009 10:42:33 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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