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U.S. Buys Su-27s
strategypage ^ | 10-05-2009

Posted on 05/11/2009 3:50:30 AM PDT by pobeda1945

May 11, 2009: The U.S. has purchased two Su-27 fighters from Ukraine. They were delivered in a Ukrainian An-24 transport. The Su-27s will be used to help train American pilots to cope with the growing number of Su-27 and Su-30 fighters being sold to air forces the world over. The two Su-27s will also be used to test the effectiveness of new U.S. radars and electronic warfare equipment. Russia's Sukhoi aircraft company has sold over a billion dollars worth of these aircraft (plus components and technical services for them) a year for the last few years. Sukhoi mainly supplies Su-27/30 jet fighters to India, China, Malaysia, Venezuela and Algeria. The 33 ton Su27 is similar to the U.S. F-15, but costs over a third less.

Developed near the end of the Cold War, the aircraft is one of the best fighters Russia has ever produced. The government helped keep Sukhoi alive during the 1990s, and even supplied money for development of an improved version of the Su-27, which was called the Su-30. This proved to be an outstanding aircraft, and is the main one Sukhoi produces. There are now several Su-30 variants, and major upgrades. While only about 700 Su-27s were produced (mostly between 1984, when it entered service, and the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991), adding Su-30 production and you have over 1,000 aircraft (including license built ones in China and India).



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airforce; fighter; su27
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1 posted on 05/11/2009 3:50:31 AM PDT by pobeda1945
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To: pobeda1945

SU-27 and SU-30 are capable aircraft, but they’re nothing but Raptor bait.......


2 posted on 05/11/2009 3:57:22 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: pobeda1945

Why now buy 500 if they are so good and inexpensive?


3 posted on 05/11/2009 3:59:58 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: roaddog727

this has everything to do with pissing off Russia.
Ya gots to know Russia is mad as hell at Ukraine for selling these to us and the Ukranians are loving it.
And yes they are as good as gator bait alongside the Raptor.
Thanks for your service also.


4 posted on 05/11/2009 4:02:08 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (yEP,i)
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To: Joe Boucher

Happy to be of service, thanks.


5 posted on 05/11/2009 4:08:03 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: pobeda1945
With hussein... we will be fighting them with “SPITBALLS”!

Kudos to Zell.

LLS

6 posted on 05/11/2009 4:16:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: roaddog727

The first 2 planes of the ACORN air force.


7 posted on 05/11/2009 5:21:35 AM PDT by wny
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To: wny
You mat well be correct my friend. Scary $hit when that is a real possibility.
8 posted on 05/11/2009 5:22:53 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: roaddog727
The F-22 may be going the way of the dinosaur if Obama and Gates have their way.
9 posted on 05/11/2009 5:24:29 AM PDT by kabar
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To: pobeda1945
One we get conceal carry nationwide, can I have one of these puppies for my garage?

"A people in fear of their nation is tyranny; a nation in fear of its people is liberty."

10 posted on 05/11/2009 5:25:23 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: roaddog727

Sure.
If any of the 193 Raptors (th-th-th-thaaat’s all, folks) are nearby.
Otherwise, it’s F-15s and F-16s.

“Quantity has a quality all it’s own.”

Sukhoi designs are dead sexy and extremely capable.


11 posted on 05/11/2009 5:29:51 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: roaddog727
Speaking of bait:

Lay off the kool aid.

12 posted on 05/11/2009 6:16:16 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes, especially when the nut may be restricted by ROE’s on both tactics and systems.


13 posted on 05/11/2009 7:02:26 AM PDT by cranked
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To: A.A. Cunningham

And what airframe provided that HUD view? Certainly NOT an SU-27 or SU-30, as I detect a serious lack of Cyrillic characters....


14 posted on 05/11/2009 8:39:37 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: roaddog727

It was an F/A-18 Super Hornet.
The HUD image has been extenisvely discussed on the internet.

Some discussion here on it:
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-5430.html

And a revealing commentary by a poster named ‘Rapier55’ (scroll down midpage) which describes the image in detail:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-115913.html

And here from a poster that cites ‘Rapier55’:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=863372


15 posted on 05/11/2009 9:14:41 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked; roaddog727
You need to lay off the kool aid too, cranked. Kills of Raptors are becoming fairly common these days, a fact which the boys in blue don't want anyone to know.

You neophyte zoomie fans remind me of the F-117 and B-2 jocks who said they couldn't be detected by radar but had no explanation as to why my Prowler squadron was ATO'd to provide them with SEAD.

16 posted on 05/11/2009 9:35:35 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; cranked

Yeah, yeah, yeah...

Blah, blah, blah.....

Show some either training or combat documentation of an SU-27 or SU-30 with an F-22 in it’s HUD.........

Still waiting.


17 posted on 05/12/2009 1:55:35 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: pobeda1945; A.A. Cunningham

`Das’Va’dania Kom`erad,,,

Check Six!!!,,,;0)


18 posted on 05/12/2009 2:25:12 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: roaddog727
It could happen. Watch carefully both parts, especially the beginning of part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKEa-R37PeU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ibgAQ7lv0w

19 posted on 05/12/2009 4:55:13 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

Good videos. Most informative.

Thanks.


20 posted on 05/12/2009 5:26:31 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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