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To: BereanBrain

If God could create the universe, couldn’t he create the geological facts that we are “reading”? IOW if you accept the existence of God and His omnipotence, who is to say that he didn’t create a world that appears millions of years old.


11 posted on 05/10/2009 8:46:30 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Optimist
who is to say that he didn’t create a world that appears millions of years old.

The supposition always is that Adam and Even were created MAN and WOMAN, not babies.

The logical conclusion would be that God created the earth already aged as well.

12 posted on 05/10/2009 8:50:32 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Optimist

He could, but He’s not given to deception— that’s the domain of That Other.


14 posted on 05/10/2009 8:50:43 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: Optimist
"If God could create the universe, couldn’t he create the geological facts that we are “reading”?"

The Genesis judgment created every visible feature on Earth.

An observant eye sees a very young Earth in such things as hills that still have deep soil that brings forth new land slides every winter. An old Earth would be nothing but bedrock and rugged, unclimbable cliffs, with shallow oceans full of sediment.

15 posted on 05/10/2009 8:58:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Optimist

He can create (like he did Adam) a creation with the appearance of age, fully formed in other words.

That being said, what I don’t believe in is making assumptions and reading things into the text that are not there.....this leads to a loss in faith if the “assumption” is proven wrong.

No, I don’t believe the earth is over 3 Billion years old, but I also don’t think Usher got his dates completely right either.
Who is more wrong? In my opinion, the old earthers have a lot more explaining to do than young earthers.


30 posted on 05/10/2009 9:29:43 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Optimist

Yahweh = Loki?


44 posted on 05/10/2009 10:28:47 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Optimist; editor-surveyor
If God could create the universe, couldn’t he create the geological facts that we are “reading”? IOW if you accept the existence of God and His omnipotence, who is to say that he didn’t create a world that appears millions of years old.

You guys always have one, single argument that everything else boils down to:

Our epistemology is divine, and yours isn't, so screw you, we're going home.</Cartman>

You argue on about that level.

101 posted on 05/11/2009 11:56:46 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Optimist

Last Thursdayims!

Who says the entire universe wasn’t created with the appearance of age last Thursday?

I like when people go with the “appearance of age” defense in that it admits a fundamental truth...

a) Models that assume an ancient Earth and Universe are useful in explaining and predicting data

b) Models that assume a young Earth and Universe are of absolutely no practical use to anybody.


102 posted on 05/11/2009 11:59:17 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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