Do you need to stock up the bunker?

BBC News Magazine ^ | 2 May 2008 | Brendan O'Neill

[LasVegasMac]

Dear Santa.......

[mylife]

The basic model is about $650 add $250 for the drum $60 for a Tapco collapsible "T6 stock"

The darn things used to be about $350 for the basic model

Basic Saiga 12

T6 Stock

Custom Saigas could be in the $1500 range.

[joesjane]

So I guess I just buy the basic and then customize it?

[mylife]

They have all the side effects of a real MRE too!

But, for emergency rations what can ya do?

[mylife]

Every one knows there aint no sanity clause! I read the fine print myself. ☺

[50cal Smokepole]

*groan*
Have you ever tried shooting at a grouse? Durn things will put a tree between the muzzle and it in a startling heartbeat. I've shot at a whole lot of grouse. And there are a whole lot of trees with missing bark and lead poisoning.

[mylife]

You can. It is pretty easy and will save you some hard earned money.

[mylife]

Loads of info here http://forum.saiga-12.com/

[mylife]

L0L! real Mother Chukkers eh?

[appleseed]

Added to the DHS right wing watch list aka Self Reliant/Survivalist ping list.

[southernnorthcarolina]

I'm not a "survivalist' in the sense of the word most often seen, which is to say "kook," but taking basic precautions against the effects of societal breakdown (which I view as unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility) makes sense. Prepare, to the extent you reasonably can, for the worst, while hoping for the best.

I'm in the process of building a new house, and I have most definitely weighed the possibilities of cataclysmic events, whether natural disasters or major civic unrest, in its design.

First, and perhaps most importantly, my new house is way out in the sticks -- 25 miles from downtown Charlotte. Away from "the hood," in other words. Living in the auto-dependent exurbs might not meet with Algore's approval, but I don't much care. I won't be in the line of fire in the case of civil unrest.

I'm in well-and-septic territory, largely immune from service interruptions and environmental terrorism. I'm considering getting a diesel-fired emergency generator so I can keep the pumps running in the case of a prolonged power outage. My heating will be natural gas, but I'll have a large fireplace (gas logs but able to burn wood).

I'm having a small safe put in, which will contain important documents, a gun or two and ammo, and some gold coins.

Will I be secure against all eventualities? Of course not. But I'll be in better shape than most.

[joesjane]

how funny, I was just on there. What barrel length is shown in the photo?

[mylife]

I think it’s a 20”

[WVKayaker]

...I do know I have an awful lot of canned goods, rice, beans and bullets.

Don't forget barter items. While gold is more valuable, silver is more tradable. Everybody knows a dime or quarter. Coffee in the Vac bags will last, and can swap for fuel or whatever. Who wants life without coffee?;>)

[appleseed]

I do the Postal food drive every year, mainly to help my wife out (postal carrier). We did it on Saturday. I could not believe the contrast to previous years. Had about 1 tenth of the last 5 years or so. When we dropped the food off at the food bank, dude said it’s the worst year he had seen. Something ain’t right. Not sure what, but something just don’t seem right.

[mylife]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7243/dsc1818.jpg

This is a do it yourself Saiga 410 with the $60 Tapco stock and a 15 rd $45 mag.

Note the trigger group sits back like 3” from the mag.
Thats the way Saiga makes them but on a regular AK the trigger group is directly behind the mag. When some one says their saiga has been “converted” They mean the trigger group has been moved forward to the original position.

A Gunsmith is generally required to do this.

If that $1500 one was converted then the price may be about right.

Its a lot to pay for a dang shotgun, but they are WAY cool.

[KarlInOhio]

Now if a hot blonde or brunette needs some food and water for a warm winter, well...

But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that we could then work our way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years. Of course that would necessitate the abandonment of the so called monogamous sexual relationship, as far as men were concerned. But it is a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature. < /shamelessly swiped from Dr. Strangelove>

[joesjane]

LOL, you guys are so funny when you get on this subject! This conservative girl is cracking up. I know I wouldn't want more than one woman in my house if I was y'all, we are a real pain!

[mylife]

Dont forget Tobacco!

[KarlInOhio]

I do the Postal food drive every year, mainly to help my wife out (postal carrier). We did it on Saturday. I could not believe the contrast to previous years. Had about 1 tenth of the last 5 years or so. When we dropped the food off at the food bank, dude said it’s the worst year he had seen. Something ain’t right. Not sure what, but something just don’t seem right.

I don't think I saw any advertisements for it this year. Usually I get at least two postcards advertising it, but I don't recall getting them this year. Did the USPS cut back to save money just counting on people remembering last year's drive and whatever public service announcements they might get on TV?