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"New Testament Teaching on Homosexuality Not True" -Obama Christian Appointee to Faith-Based Pro...
CNS News ^ | Wednesday, April 08, 2009 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 05/10/2009 6:22:03 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: presidio9
Obama's big mistake is thinking he can dictate religious doctrine to people.

Big mistake. Big consequences.

81 posted on 05/10/2009 6:21:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: presidio9

I always find it ironic that gays use a rainbow flag as their icon, because God provided the rainbow as a testament of the Noahic Covenant.

When ever we see the rainbow, not only should we be reminded God won’t allow the earth to be destroyed by water immersion again (sorry Al Gore, the earth doesn’t get flooded again), but it also reminds us of some seven laws given man at that time.

Fornication was outlawed, as was homosexuality.

It’s OK to go have a big steak (meat was approved for human diet), but not of a living animal, (the blood had to be drained away from the animal).

Murder, blasphemy and theft also were outlawed.

Idolatry was prohibited, meaning not to worship anything other than God.

Lastly, man was to institute capitol punishment for their violation in the enforcement of justice.

So when I see a rainbow, it tells me God approves of me going out and having a big steak, throwing the switch on the electric chair with either a murderer, homosexual, or fornicator in it, and that Al Gore is still wrong as ever about the Earth going through global warming such that all the land masses will be deluged underwater.

When I see a rainbow flag, it reminds me how the unbeliever has their minds veiled from the truth so badly they don’t even recognize they are broadcasting their own death sentence.

The next time you see a rainbow flag, just remember it’s Ok to celebrate with a bog steak, to condone capitol punishment, and remember how wrong Al Gore is in his science.


82 posted on 05/10/2009 6:49:17 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Sorry but this is pure BS....

You are so right on. Really good way to express what is so very valid. Knox will find out in due time what the Lord has said through his prophets is what the Lord has said.


83 posted on 05/10/2009 8:31:44 PM PDT by newhouse
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To: NYer

Modernists, unfortunately, have no respect for the wisdon of the past.


84 posted on 05/10/2009 9:47:09 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: RobbyS

So, we have a socialist in official White House capacity interpreting scripture and making policy decisions on that interpretation, but the ACLU isn’t going crazy?


85 posted on 05/11/2009 6:31:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ichabod1
[ The Nazis “officially tolerated” Christianity, but they tried to play down the books by the man they referred to as “the Jew Paul.” ]

Or the Jew Jesus.. actually 100% OF ALL CHRISTIANS WERE Jews..
In the beginning..

86 posted on 05/11/2009 8:49:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: FatherofFive
[ Fortunately, we have Christ’s promise that heresies will never prevail against the Church. They will arise, endure sometimes for centuries, like Protestantism.. ]

The roman catholic church is NOT "the church".. it is "A church".. No denomination is "the church".. i.e. John ch 10..

87 posted on 05/11/2009 8:57:48 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ichabod1
[ supported a right wing authoritarian regime in Germany ]

The Nazis were a "left wing group".. they were not right wing at all..
They were SOCIALISTS..

88 posted on 05/11/2009 9:01:19 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
The roman catholic church is NOT "the church".. it is "A church".. No denomination is "the church".. i.e. John ch 10..

Don't bother.

On FR, you'll find a large number of people who view Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, etc. as different denominations of the Christian faith (anyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and Savior is saved, regardless of the perculiarities of the different denominations).

You'll also find a large number of people on FR who view their particular group as a sect (anyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and Savior and who holds the other beliefs of their particular group is saved).
89 posted on 05/11/2009 9:09:08 AM PDT by TexasAg
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To: hosepipe
Correction:
perculiarities ->peculiarities

By the way, I'm in the first group who happens to believe that Christians (regardless of demonination) go to Heaven.
90 posted on 05/11/2009 9:11:54 AM PDT by TexasAg
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To: presidio9

The Marxist know that in order to destroy the US and Western Civilization in general Christianity must be destroyed first.


91 posted on 05/11/2009 9:17:38 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: presidio9

You cannot cherry pick what you will and will not support from the Bible. The Bible says homosexuality is WRONG. Period. Nothing less. I believe the same with abortion. I.E. Thy shall not kill. Abortion is killing. It is murder. So, if I believe in Christ, but support homos and abortion, you say I am going to Heaven anyway? Sorry, don’t think so.


92 posted on 05/11/2009 11:31:31 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Right wing military retiree. Proudly on DHLS hit list!!!!!)
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To: hosepipe

You will never get a lefty to admit that National socialism was left wing, because it was not marxist in ideology.


93 posted on 05/11/2009 11:40:59 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: hosepipe
No denomination is "the church"

The Church Christ established must be more than just a collection of people with different interpretations of “the Truth” taught by Christ. Otherwise Scripture makes no sense. Let’s look at how Scripture describes the Church:

“And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

So here Christ says his Church will not be destroyed.

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Pay close attention here – “the pillar and foundation of truth” is a powerful statement. No “denomination” can be the Church that is the foundation of truth. Here Christ says, and Paul reaffirms, that the Church will always teach the TRUTH and will not be destroyed.

So here’s a simple question:

How do you make sense of the following?

"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Mat 81:15-18

So where is the church? Do you take your concerns anywhere? This makes no sense whatsoever without the visible Church Christ established with teaching authority, and the power to loose and bind.

Think about it. Would Christ establish his Church – to teach the way, the truth – and allow thousands of interpretation as to what is the truth? If the Church doesn’t teach the Truth, Christ is a liar. If He would allow multiple versions of Truth, he’d be an idiot. I don’t believe He is either.

94 posted on 05/11/2009 11:44:12 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: FatherofFive
[ Think about it. Would Christ establish his Church – to teach the way, the truth – and allow thousands of interpretation as to what is the truth? If the Church doesn’t teach the Truth, Christ is a liar. If He would allow multiple versions of Truth, he’d be an idiot. I don’t believe He is either. ]

You have effectivly removed the Holy Spirit out of the LOOP..
As all religion seems to do..

Is the HS a moron?.. or gutless?... or a robot?
Jesus left this planet in his care..
Prayer WORKS.. and always gets an answer even if that answer is NO.. or "get real"..

Jesus said "You MUST be born again".. NOT..
You be very smart spiritually.. some christians are dumb..
And follow dogma instead of the Holy Spirits(paraclete) advise..

95 posted on 05/11/2009 11:53:10 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: presidio9
“Paul did not have any idea of the kind of love that I feel for a partner when I am partnered."

Say no more, please ....
96 posted on 05/11/2009 11:56:17 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: RobbyS
[ You will never get a lefty to admit that National socialism was left wing, because it was not marxist in ideology. ]

Communism, Nazism and Fascism were ALL socialism..
The "Gov't" owned or controlled ALL commerce..

Socialism DEPENDS on democracy..

No democracy ever invented was democratic.. ever..
Democracy is the political social disease that breeds socialism..
Socialism and democracy are BOTH LIES.. myths..
For they are both Oligarchy..

97 posted on 05/11/2009 12:11:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
You have effectivly removed the Holy Spirit out of the LOOP..

Sorry I gave you that impression. I just tried to keep my response to a reasonable length. I understand the promise of Christ to send the Holy Spirit.

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

The Holy Spirit guides to TRUTH – not one of many versions of the TRUTH.

But my previous question stands.

98 posted on 05/11/2009 12:15:01 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: FatherofFive
[ The Holy Spirit guides to TRUTH – not one of many versions of the TRUTH. ]

Not christians are christians..
Sometimes some don't have the ears to hear..
Thats WHY there are sheep pens.. i.e. John ch 10..
Holding pens until they are fit for the pasture..
Feeding on dogma..

99 posted on 05/11/2009 12:20:28 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

So I take it you will not answer my question?


100 posted on 05/11/2009 12:40:38 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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