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Pelosi: I Was Told Interrogation Methods Were Lawful
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Posted on 05/08/2009 1:41:44 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Pelosi: I Was Told Interrogation Methods Were Lawful The House speaker's statement came after CIA records showed Pelosi was briefed in September 2002 on the interrogation methods and appeared to contradict her claim last month that she was never told that waterboarding or other enhanced interrogation techniques were being used.

FOXNews.com

Friday, May 08, 2009

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi insisted Friday that she was briefed only once about the "enhanced" interrogation techniques being used on terrorism suspects and that she was assured by lawyers with the CIA and the Department of Justice that the methods were legal.

Pelosi issued a statement after CIA records released this week showed that Pelosi was briefed in September 2002 on the interrogation methods. The briefings memo appeared to contradict the speaker's claims that she was never told that waterboarding or other enhanced interrogation methods were being used.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; cia; ciainterrogation; ciainterrogationmemo; interrogation; pelosi
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To: GingisK
Odd, I see no one responding to my mention of chemicals that loosen the tongue. Those work without the torture. Am I to assume that our agencies are denied access to these substances, or that torture is the preferred method of enlightenment?

Chemicals can be effective...but they don't always work.

Besides which, how do you know that every conceivable method of enhanced interrogation wasn't tried before employing the waterboarding. It almost certainly was -- since, under the circumstances, nobody was inclined to leave a stone unturned.

They weren't playing "torture" -- as you assert. They were conducting serious, important...and critical...interrogations.

Frankly, your position on this torture issue is a moral enigma, inside a twisted logic...and shrouded by absurdity.

121 posted on 05/08/2009 6:19:10 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: TigersEye

Helen Thomas pix are torture. Pelosi is just harsh tactics. LOL.


122 posted on 05/08/2009 6:19:29 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: nufsed

Amen!


123 posted on 05/08/2009 6:20:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: GingisK
Foreigners in our Nation can speak out, own firearms, etc, all the way through the Bill of Rights.

Has it occurred to you that these interrogations were of belligerent foreigners captured on the battlefield and took place in Guantanamo?

Hardly the same thing.

124 posted on 05/08/2009 6:22:05 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: nufsed
Torturing a person who has knowledge about blowing up a bus load of school children, because the person will not talk, and saving 40 children, a teacher, and a bus driver.

In a "live situation", I would employ just about anything to save innocent people. I'd feel like shit afterwards; and, I'd wouldn't make a career out of the practice. In a situation where someone has been in captivity well past his "battlefield knowledge", I would not.

I was a soldier, and even to this day I take my Oath very seriously. (Even though I'm pretty far over the hill.) I do have to balance all of that with my understanding of God's preferences. I suspect there are those who enjoy mistreating others. We even have plenty of bad cops to go around. I'm sure there are turds in other places.

125 posted on 05/08/2009 6:22:13 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: okie01
were of belligerent foreigners captured on the battlefield and took place in Guantanamo?

I suspect morality has no boundry lines, neither for the point of capture or the application of the torture. My understanding is that God permates the whole place, and can see it all.

126 posted on 05/08/2009 6:23:57 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: nufsed

Not quite the right distinction. When a conservative posts their pix it is torture. When a liberal posts their pix it is only a harsh tactic. When you understand the meaning of this, grazzhoppa, you will know what tortured (ie liberal) logic is. ;^)


127 posted on 05/08/2009 6:25:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: presently no screen name
Tell that to your muslim friends - they enjoy slitting throats of the Americans.

I have no Muslim friends. They should be engaged on the battlefield and exterminated, fair and square. ;-D

128 posted on 05/08/2009 6:25:36 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
I mean, without consulting those who enjoy the job?

First you give us proof that any one enjoy 'the job'. They only thing anyone enjoyed is hearing the truth so as to protect you and me.

The ones that enjoyed the job are the muslims - coming her to learn to fly with deliberate intentions of taking down as man as they can. You stand behind a religion that enjoys killing for their greater good. You claim morals? HA! Anyone who has morals abhors evil - you coddle it.
129 posted on 05/08/2009 6:26:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
...Saying the terrorists are 'innocent'...

I know you won't understand this with your mindset: Someone who is bound, hooded, and held by well-rested and unfettered men in not a threat. As such, they should not be subjected to abuse.

130 posted on 05/08/2009 6:27:50 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
That document is one of the Lights of the World.

But it is only the law within the United States and some places under its jurisdiction.

131 posted on 05/08/2009 6:28:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: presently no screen name
God hates evil - we are not to embrace it like you are doing.

You embrace brutal behavior toward fettered and hooded men, and I have the "evil problem"? I have a very simple solution: Quit coddling the enemy and kill them on the battlefield. Let no vermin escape to come near our children.

132 posted on 05/08/2009 6:29:55 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: TigersEye
But it is only the law within the United States and some places under its jurisdiction.

Ah, but the Founding Principles are universal. I hold to principle, not law.

133 posted on 05/08/2009 6:31:24 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
They should be engaged on the battlefield and exterminated, fair and square.

Where is their battlefield - the sky? the sidewalks? your backyard? We are fighting a mindset, not a territory.
134 posted on 05/08/2009 6:35:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: GingisK
You embrace brutal behavior toward fettered and hooded men, and I have the "evil problem"? I have a very simple solution: Quit coddling the enemy and kill them on the battlefield. Let no vermin escape to come near our children.

Beating a man does him temporary harm and leaves him able to still repent. Killing a man is a permanent harm to him and prevents any chance that he might repent.

The principle you stand on is utterly evil.

135 posted on 05/08/2009 6:35:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: presently no screen name
Where is their battlefield - the sky?

It seems to be in Muslim countries, mainly in the Middle East. Have you been napping?

136 posted on 05/08/2009 6:37:14 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: TigersEye
Killing a man is a permanent harm to him and prevents any chance that he might repent.

To those who actually believe in the afterlife, death is merely a change of lifestyle.

137 posted on 05/08/2009 6:38:08 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
To those who actually believe in the afterlife, death is merely a change of lifestyle.

Nonsense. Christian philosophy doesn't believe in that and neither do I.

138 posted on 05/08/2009 6:39:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
Nonsense. Christian philosophy doesn't believe in that and neither do I.

I'm not certain that Christians know what they are talking about. I tend to subscribe to the reincarnation concepts along with Karmic entanglements.

This place just has to be a "prison planet". We're all too mean to be regular citizens, arn't we?

139 posted on 05/08/2009 6:44:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
You embrace brutal behavior

Now it's brutal - waterboard is brutal! I embrace truth and if some killer stands in my way of protecting this nation - you best believe I'd squeeze their nuts till they cry! They'll get the message. We abhor evil!

I would not allow any American blood on my hands because some terrorist is unwilling to cooperate. They enjoyed the American blood on their hands - that's their whole purpose - and you call that 'innocent'.
140 posted on 05/08/2009 6:51:06 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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