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To: savagesusie; Twink
Sorry, but the ultimate responsibility of moral education belongs at home, as Twink says.

The fact that the American family, not all but many, got caught up in the rat race is not the responsibility of the educators.

I am not a youngster. Through out my life, in high school and else where, radical opinions were injected into my mind. Did I, as a young person question those opinions as truth? Absolutely. But maybe the “base” belief that was injected in my youth by my family eventually brought my forays into the realms of the “what if” philosophy brought me back to my base.

38 posted on 05/07/2009 10:49:50 PM PDT by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Ptarmigan

Liberals never consider the consequence of their actions or the affect it may have on others. The “Gay Marriage” debate is a classic example of this. The are totally un-repentant and refuse to accept any responsibility. It is always someone else fault. Bottom line, it is a personality disorder.


41 posted on 05/07/2009 11:24:39 PM PDT by skimask (When dealing with people who value death over life, traditional means of deterrence will not work)
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To: berdie; Twink
But maybe the “base” belief that was injected in my youth by my family eventually brought my forays into the realms of the “what if” philosophy brought me back to my base.

Good for you, but some never come back. You and Twink want to remove responsibility completely from the schools and place all responsibility at the feet of the parents. I say that we ALL play a part in the development of young Americans. Parents, Teachers, Coaches, Church, other outside sources....we all play a part. And when a large percentage of those forces are driving young Americans away from learning what it truly means to BE an American, we are headed for some real trouble. Heck, we are already there.

And if you really feel that the public schools are not that responsible, what is the true meaning of your tag line?
47 posted on 05/08/2009 6:29:32 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: berdie
Of course, the moral education belongs at home.

The fact that there is a government school system run by a bunch of Marxists instilling their moral relativism into the minds of young susceptible children IS our fault. We have allowed the Marxist groups such as the homosexuals, feminists and multiculturalists to take over the educational system and our media with our tax money.

Personally, I would not allow my children to go to public schools now adays. Post modern German philosophy is in all the curricula and it promotes atheism and moral relativism and communism (egalitarianism). It is evil. Most movies and sitcoms are infused with this destructive, nihilistic philosophy and Europe is dying because they adopted it in the 1800's.

When it is so evasive, it is really hard to bring up moral children when there is chaos all around. It can be done, it is just very difficult.

You are right. If logic is learned as a child you can reason issues and come to the right conclusion. There is no education going on in most public schools....a lot of social indoctrination. A lot of parents do not understand how to raise their children--the importance of the young mind. Feminist groups control the parent magazines and issue bad and destructive advise to young mothers. They do not disparage single motherhood, probably one of the simplest ways for a marxist to get control over their child's mind.

49 posted on 05/08/2009 4:14:01 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: berdie

I see it with some members of my own extended family.

Even as a kid/teen/college student, when anything was brought up that questioned what I believed or raised to believe, I was always able to ask my parents, discuss it all with them. It was an ongoing conversation for as long as I can remember. What my parents taught me had far more influence on me than anything else.

I’m seeing it now with my own teens (all my kids actually). They hear something from their friends, or school, or on TV/movies, etc. and they’ll ask about it. We discuss it.

Also, I know there are parents who do all they can yet their kids still reject all or some of what they’ve been taught in the home. Even so, it’s not the job of anyone or anything else to teach them.


54 posted on 05/09/2009 1:32:13 PM PDT by Twink
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