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To: ETL

Is it really a front operated by the RCR? Or is a just a random lefty-socialist group that the RCR is eager to infiltrate and co-opt? There are an awful lot of people who have some sort of activity in or affiliation with groups that might be regarded as “useful” by the RCR, but who don’t support the extreme aims of the RCR or even know that the RCR regards the group as useful or that RCR may be manipulating/infiltrating the group. Not that I’m thrilled about Karpinski even allowing her name to be used in support of Not In Our Name, but it’s way different than actually endorsing RCR, unless the group is overtly controlled by RCR. For random citizens, I wouldn’t even think of making the jump from endorsing NION to a presumption of endorsing RCR, but Karpinski is certainly in a position to recognize the importance of checking out such connections/control before endorsing a group.

I just think we should be careful about getting into McCarthyish excesses, by labelling people as “communist sympathizers” without any evidence that they actually regard themselves as such. There actually are people who are anti-war and/or pro moderate forms of socialism, who don’t support anything along the lines of the RCR philosophy. We just drive away people who have the potential be gradually brought over to our side of the fence, if we’re quick to scream “communist” when they affilate with lefty-peacenik groups that they don’t realize are being manipulated or even controlled by an overtly communist organization.


22 posted on 05/07/2009 12:09:29 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Is it really a front operated by the RCR? Or is a just a random lefty-socialist group that the RCR is eager to infiltrate and co-opt?

Both World Can't Wait and Not In Our Name were founded by leaders of the Revolutionary Communist Party. Try actually reading through what I posted above and checking out the links. Also try doing some research of your own. It's not that hard.

BTW: it's not "RCR", it's 'RCP' (Revolutionary Communist Party).

23 posted on 05/07/2009 12:31:04 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I just think we should be careful about getting into McCarthyish excesses

Stick it with the "McCarthyish excesses". That's the kind of talk we expect from the commie left. The guy was right far more often than he was wrong.

24 posted on 05/07/2009 12:33:27 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
International ANSWER, Not in Our Name, World Can't Wait, etc. were all formed and sponsored by the World Workers' Party -- the Stalinist splinter off of the American Communist Party.

The WWP website used to include links to all these creatures, claiming full responsibility for them. All of them shared the same street address (and, sometimes, phone number) in lower Manhattan -- though I believe they've since scrubbed the connection. The recent Chairman of the WWP was Ramsey Clark (yes, THAT Ramsey Clark).

Their funding is largely provided by rich lefties, a few "foundations for peace" and, among others, by Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Fascinatingly, International ANSWER -- not LULAC and MALDEF -- was the primary organizer of the illegal alien demonstrations a couple of years ago.

If it's associated with the WWP, yes, it IS a Communist-front organization.

27 posted on 05/07/2009 12:47:12 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
but Karpinski is certainly in a position to recognize the importance of checking out such connections/control before endorsing a group.

Ahh! I didn't catch that the first time around. World Can't Wait has 'only' been around since 2005. And Not In Our Name, a good deal longer. Anyone, other than a naive school kid or a total friggin idiot adult, should know who these groups are by now. I'm curious, were you once a member of either?

28 posted on 05/07/2009 12:52:16 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Here's the Revolutionary Communist Party (see link below) boasting of a FULL PAGE 'World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime' ad of theirs which appeared in the New York Slimes. (either "rwor.org" or "revcom.us" takes you to the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party). The NY Times has since allowed several additional full-page RCP/WCW ads.
Article title: "Who Hated the Bush Step Down Ad in the New York Times? ...And what that Tells Us About Why We Must and How We Can Drive Out the Bush Regime"(actual title)
http://www.rwor.org/a/028/who-hated-bush-ad.htm
31 posted on 05/07/2009 1:02:50 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: World Can't Wait (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213
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Yahoo search results for: "kissinger""world can't wait""revolutionary communist party":
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22kissinger%22%22world+can%27t+wait%22%22revolutionary+communist+party%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

33 posted on 05/07/2009 1:12:31 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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