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I don't equate Barak Obama with Adolph Hitler, but I do think the abortion culture we have arrived at in this country has many parallels to the Holocaust. Or to slavery. Using the author's own logic I wonder: If Notre Dame had invited Hitler to Speak on campus in 1939, and if it had awaded him an honerary degree, but a minority of its students went right on volunteering, and going to mass, and lighting candles in the grotto, would it still have the right to call itself a Catholic School? Does Ted Kennedy have the right to call himself a Catholic?
1 posted on 05/06/2009 11:29:39 AM PDT by presidio9
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Does Ted Kennedy have the right to call himself a Catholic?

No more than eating at McDonalds gives you the right to call yourself a cheeseburger.

2 posted on 05/06/2009 11:31:44 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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He does make Catholics who support him less Catholic.


3 posted on 05/06/2009 11:32:18 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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“Fr” Jenkins has made Notre Dame less Catholic. Obama is just the tool he did it with.


4 posted on 05/06/2009 11:32:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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I glanced over the above, did I miss the part where he defended the school’s decision to honor Barack Obama, abortion advocate, with a degree?

He makes the claim that “Obama doesn’t make Notre Dame LESS Catholic”. Maybe they aren’t Catholic at all. That would make sense.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 11:32:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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But that statue of Mary on top of the Dome isn't coming down anytime soon...

Does Las Vegas have odds on that? I'm not too convinced myself.

6 posted on 05/06/2009 11:34:44 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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I don't equate Barak Obama with Adolph Hitler

Give him time.

8 posted on 05/06/2009 11:36:16 AM PDT by exist
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Notre Dame is not Catholic has not been for a very long time.

Obama might as well bring Rev. Wright along to do his 'special prayer' for the graduates...
13 posted on 05/06/2009 11:40:55 AM PDT by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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"But that statue of Mary on top of the Dome isn't coming down anytime soon, and long after Obama has spoken, Notre Dame will still continue to be "a powerful force for good."

Catholic is as Catholic does. The actions of protesting Catholics and the likes of the American Life League are not making Notre Dame less Catholic. That is being done by none other than Notre Dame and Fr. Jenkins.

15 posted on 05/06/2009 11:41:40 AM PDT by Natural Law
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Calling on a bishop to remove the Catholic status of Notre Dame -- a school where every year, on average, 200 graduates spend time after graduation doing service, where dorm masses are as popular as dorm dances, where the Grotto is nearly always lit with candles, where students spend their spring breaks volunteering -- that's insulting to me and to all the people who come to Notre Dame, not only to learn but to develop and live out their faith. That's something that doesn't change with the choice of a Commencement speaker.

For a "Catholic University" to endorse a person (give him an honorary degree) who is at direct odds with the Catholic Church is putting souls at risk.

The American Life League and other groups who don't want Obama to speak here should keep protesting, as it is certainly their right and they have valid points, but don't tell us we're not being Catholic enough.

You are not practicing your faith by not speaking out sir.

We've heard it before and I'm sure we'll hear it again. But that statue of Mary on top of the Dome isn't coming down anytime soon, and long after Obama has spoken, Notre Dame will still continue to be "a powerful force for good."

How can you be sure that The Virgin wont be covered with a cloth or some other device like at Georgetown?

17 posted on 05/06/2009 11:42:28 AM PDT by frogjerk (NO TAXATION FOR REAMORTIZATION!)
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“I don’t equate Barak Obama with Adolph Hitler”............not yet......Hitler presided over the extermination of 6 million Jews.......Obama has assumed the mantel as POTUS doing everything in his power to advance abortion even pushing partial birth abortions (over 40 million abortions)Hitler had his brown shirts to watch his back and Obama has ACORN to intimidate and fix elections. Hitler nationalized the banks and other businesses just as Obama is doing now.


20 posted on 05/06/2009 11:51:07 AM PDT by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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Looks like another CINO writing stories about something she knows nothing about?


21 posted on 05/06/2009 11:57:13 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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This ND student misses, intentionally or not, the inherent weakness in her statement. Her ‘defense’ would do a high school sophomore proud. For a graduate or near-graduate of a ‘premier’ Catholic University, it is laughably shallow. No one is claiming ND is less ‘Catholic’ for inviting a virulently pro-abortion politician to speak. The point is that HONORING and REWARDING him with a Law degree is an insult to and denial the fundamental beliefs which supposedly underlie her ‘alma mater.’ The ‘honor’ implicitly lends support and credence to Obama’s fanatical support of abortion. The university is publicly endorsing and trivializing a fundamental truth of the religion it purports to support and which it milks for donations and support.

The fact that she neither feels insulted by nor recognizes the insult to what are the proclaimed principles of the university of this action, just reveals the inadequacy of the education received, or rather the actual learning she did as a student there. The actions of Fr. Jenkins and the transparent rationalization of them by alumni and students supporting him reveal the moral shallowness which has enveloped education at Notre Dame.


22 posted on 05/06/2009 11:57:32 AM PDT by NHResident
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Note Dame is making Notre Dame less catholic.


24 posted on 05/06/2009 12:01:43 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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Obama Doesn't Make Notre Dame Less Catholic”

Yes it does..same as bringing Stalin to give a speech at convent would.

25 posted on 05/06/2009 12:11:20 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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. . .but don't tell us we're not being Catholic enough.

Sorry, Kaitlynn. You're not being Catholic enough. If you were, Notre Dame would never even consider awarding a degree to the premier abortion provider; nor would the students, faculty, or alums tolerate it.

26 posted on 05/06/2009 12:13:30 PM PDT by Faith
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It is going to be really interesting to watch the Notre Dame commencement. Really interesting.


29 posted on 05/06/2009 12:35:18 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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“Notre Dame — a school where every year, on average, 200 graduates spend time after graduation doing service...” Soft-headed nonsense. There are Unitarians who run soup kitchens and atheists who volunteer at hospitals. It's great that some Notre Dame graduates work for good causes, but that doesn't make the school “Catholic”.
30 posted on 05/06/2009 12:39:47 PM PDT by utahagen
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This is Stockholm Syndrome from a liberal modernist too young to know or remember what a real Catholic college is.


31 posted on 05/06/2009 12:40:46 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Having the statue of Mary on the top of the dome doesn’t mean the same thing it does to Fr. Jenkins as it did to the founder, Fr. Sorin. Anyone can have a statue, but not everyone believes all that it stands for. After all, I have seen Madonna (and all manner of entertainers) wear a crucifix. Do they believe in what it stands for?

Fr. Sorin would have a seizure were he alive today and able to see what Jenkins and others have done at his university.


33 posted on 05/06/2009 1:20:56 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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Using that argument as a reference, you could say that inviting a devil worshiping homosexual to preach at your church’s pulpit doesn’t make the church any less Christian. There are just some things you don’t do.


34 posted on 05/06/2009 1:26:04 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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