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Man shot in face by off-duty Atlanta officer
atlanta urinal constipation ^ | 5/5/09 | marcus garner

Posted on 05/06/2009 4:19:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga

A 28-year-old Atlanta man was shot by an off-duty Atlanta police officer Tuesday night, but accounts vary as to what led to the conflict.

Atlanta Police Lt. Keith Meadows said an officer, working security at the Cityviews Apartments on Richardson Street, saw what he believed to be a “suspicious” person and when the officer approached the man ran to his car. The officer approached the

“The subject reached under his seat and the officer felt threatened,” Meadows said. The officer fired a single shot to the face.

No weapons were found on the man, Meadows said. The wounded man had a cellphone in his hand when he was searched at the hospital, he said.

Relatives identified the wounded man as Tramaine Miller. Meadows said Miller was in critical condition at Grady Memorial Hospital.

His father, Gregory Rollins, said Miller was visiting the complex to deliver medication to his aunt, who’s a paraplegic.

“He comes here all the time to bring her medication,” said Rollins, who lives with his disabled sister.

The incident occurred around 10 p.m. As of 11:30 p.m. police were still awaiting a warrant to search the vehicle, which was being towed to police headquarters.

Witness Jack Jordan disputed the official account.

“The cop kept telling him to show his hands,” said Jordan, who was about 20-25 yards away from the shooting. “I saw his hands.”

Jordan said he heard a window break, and then heard a gunshot.

“How can you roll down a window when your hands are in the air?” Jordan asked.

The officer will be placed on a three-day firearm review, with investigations forthcoming by the department’s homicide and internal affairs divisions, Meadows said.


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To: EAGLE7

Maybe the majority of cops in Atlanta are good, but SO darn many of them are not!


21 posted on 05/06/2009 5:29:56 AM PDT by DeLaine (If love were oil, I'd be a quart low)
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To: agere_contra

Most Atlanta Police work extra security jobs IN UNIFORM but, I don’t know if that is the case here.


22 posted on 05/06/2009 5:30:17 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: agere_contra

One other thing, private companies around here HIRE off duty police to do security, again they are usually in uniform.


23 posted on 05/06/2009 5:31:38 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: DeLaine
Wow are you serious. What that Nazi did was MURDER!! Did that cop intend to murder the guy? We do not yet know the full circumstances of the shooting. Comparing the fairness of what that nazi did to a police shooting is outrageous... BTW boys........ The f***ing war is over!!!
24 posted on 05/06/2009 5:32:24 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: proxy_user
The guy probably thought he was being held up and grabbed his cell phone to call the police.

Doesn't everyone keep a cell phone under the car seat? < /sarc >

Does a cop in this position actually have to give the subject the first shot, does he have to wait until he positively identifies a weapon, or, as in this case, make a tragic mistake?

Do criminals typically identify themselves as police to freeze their victims? Would it be reasonable for the subject to believe so?

So darned many questions, but we may never be certain of the truth!

25 posted on 05/06/2009 5:46:10 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: panthermom
Most Atlanta Police work extra security jobs IN UNIFORM but, I don’t know if that is the case here.

They do if they're working traffic, but on security, some do and some don't. Remember the black kid who was gunned down by police in Lenox a couple of years ago. Cop WAS NOT in uniform.

26 posted on 05/06/2009 5:47:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: JimRed; from occupied ga
From OCcupied Georgia said it very well.

Off duty means out of uniform. Once more the police get away with shooting a guy.


27 posted on 05/06/2009 6:11:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: Jack of all Trades; Joe Brower

That’s pretty much what happened to the Eagle Scout in MD who had his face shot off by an undercover FBI SWAT team after a mistaken ID “felony traffic stop.”

Half of these plainclothed goons with assault rifles were screaming “Freeze! Don’t move!”

The other half were screaming “Get out! Get out!”

The terrified kid reached to unbuckle his seat belt, and they shot him point blank in the face, right through the windshield.

The FBI shooter didn’t even get a slap on the wrist.


28 posted on 05/06/2009 6:13:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: Travis McGee
The FBI shooter didn’t even get a slap on the wrist.

Wasn't the kid the 3rd guy that that particular agent had shot?

29 posted on 05/06/2009 6:16:57 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: agere_contra
I’d have assumed this out-of-uniform officer

I couldn't find that in the article. Was he really out of uniform?

30 posted on 05/06/2009 6:19:51 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: from occupied ga
Faced in a life or death situation most of all you Freepers would shoot. There too many hyprocites here.
31 posted on 05/06/2009 6:23:20 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: EAGLE7

I agree that the picture was out of line.
Absolutely nothing to do with this case.


32 posted on 05/06/2009 6:24:38 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: bmwcyle

If I was in my home, YES, I’d shoot.

If I was on the street on spotted somebody “suspicious” and decided to chase him down and shoot him in the face?

No.
Not even.


33 posted on 05/06/2009 6:26:26 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Moonman62
Was he really out of uniform?

I'm going by the "off duty" which usually (but not always) means out of uniform

34 posted on 05/06/2009 6:28:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: SJSAMPLE

No more out of line the the picture Eagle7 posted...
It has nothing to do with the case, just showed his bigotry towards the south.


35 posted on 05/06/2009 6:34:55 AM PDT by Robbin
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To: EAGLE7
oh really? What rights, specifically, have they lost?
36 posted on 05/06/2009 6:54:48 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: bmwcyle
What life or death situation?
37 posted on 05/06/2009 6:58:34 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Travis McGee

WPLR used to play that sound clip once in a while. Can’t remember what movie it’s from.


38 posted on 05/06/2009 7:03:16 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Bait and Switch - that's change ain't it?)
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To: bmwcyle
Faced in a life or death situation most of all you Freepers would shoot. There too many hyprocites here

If some guy intruded in my house you bet I'd shoot, But if I shot some guy on the street because he was "acting suspicious" I'd be charged (and rightly so) with assault with a deadly weapon.

39 posted on 05/06/2009 7:21:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: JimRed
does he have to wait until he positively identifies a weapon

If we're still citizens, yes. If we're just subjects, no.

40 posted on 05/06/2009 7:30:04 AM PDT by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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