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Source: Charges Unlikely for Lawyers Over Interrogation Memos (because no laws were broken)
fox news ^ | 5 | ap

Posted on 05/05/2009 3:43:32 PM PDT by tobyhill

Justice Department officials have stopped short of recommending criminal charges against Bush administration lawyers who wrote secret memos approving harsh interrogation techniques of terror suspects.

A person familiar with the inquiry, who spoke on condition of anonymity, says investigators recommended referring two of the three lawyers to state bar associations for possible disciplinary action. The person was not authorized to discuss the inquiry.

The person noted that the investigative report was still in draft form and subject to revisions. Attorney General Eric Holder also may make his own determination about what steps to take once the report has been finalized.

The Justice Department notified two senators by letter that a key deadline in the inquiry expired Monday, signaling that most of the work on the matter was completed. The letter does not mention the possibility of criminal charges, nor does it name the lawyers under scrutiny.

The inquiry has become a politically-loaded guessing game, with some advocating criminal charges against the lawyers and others urging that the matter be dropped.

The letter did not indicate what the findings of the final report would be. Jay Bybee, John Yoo and Steven Bradbury worked in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel and played key roles in crafting the legal justification for techniques critics call torture.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bleedingheartattack; memos; waronyoo; yoo

1 posted on 05/05/2009 3:43:32 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
“torture” memos + prosecutions = armed revolt.
2 posted on 05/05/2009 3:48:06 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama - America's Elegabalus)
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To: tobyhill

What were they ever going to charge them with? Since when is (allegedly) bad advice a crime?


3 posted on 05/05/2009 3:57:37 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: tobyhill

Holder will later say that the report reflects that further investigation is required.

He will then appoint a special prosecutor and they will try to Scooter trap those involved.

They will not ever completely drop this... they must at lest pretend that it’s ongoing and ongoing and ongoing.....


4 posted on 05/05/2009 4:09:10 PM PDT by Gator113 (Temporally out of order.....)
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To: tobyhill
A person familiar with the inquiry, who spoke on condition of anonymity, says investigators recommended referring two of the three lawyers to state bar associations for possible disciplinary action.

Good. That makes the issue one of pure professional judgment and depoliticizes the matter.

5 posted on 05/05/2009 4:18:00 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Gator113

They can all stay out of the Scooter trap by keeping their mouths closed.


6 posted on 05/05/2009 4:31:11 PM PDT by tobyhill ("Hope and Change" is so overrated!)
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To: tobyhill

The lesson to be learned here is that lawyers will think long and hard now before agreeing to help defend their country.


7 posted on 05/05/2009 4:31:27 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: tobyhill

But then are they willing to go to jail for contempt.... and then lose their license to practice law?


8 posted on 05/05/2009 5:17:23 PM PDT by Gator113 (Temporally out of order.....)
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To: kaehurowing

The lesson to be learned here is that messing with the Company has very little upside.


9 posted on 05/05/2009 5:17:34 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Gator113

I think the latest I heard is that they are going to try to disbar them instead of prosecute...

How cute...there is no law broken so they go after the politically expedient thing to do...RUIN their lives...

I hate this group of a**hats...


10 posted on 05/05/2009 5:44:48 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: Gator113

If they are being accused of committing a crime then they have the right to remain silent. They’re going to lose their license anyway being the ABA is run by a bunch of Libs.


11 posted on 05/05/2009 5:46:43 PM PDT by tobyhill ("Hope and Change" is so overrated!)
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To: tobyhill

Yes, but I ‘think’ that if one has not been charged and then ordered by the judge to testify, they have to testify or the judge can toss them in jail until they do.

Bottom line, this is all so un-American. None of this is fair and it makes my blood boil.


12 posted on 05/05/2009 6:12:09 PM PDT by Gator113 (Temporally out of order.....)
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To: BamaBlue

I have a growing belief that we are not going to be able to ‘vote’ our way out of this democrat abyss.


13 posted on 05/05/2009 6:14:50 PM PDT by Gator113 (Temporally out of order.....)
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To: Gator113

An opinion, whether done by a lawyer or not, cannot be a crime.

Unless the Constitution forbids having opinions other than the current administration....

That’s what we’re facing, and the fact that it’s even a question is very scary.


14 posted on 05/05/2009 6:20:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: tobyhill
"because no laws were broken"

Isn't that what Beria said just before he pleaded guilty and was shot?

15 posted on 05/05/2009 6:47:40 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Do you call it 'unsound method'?" "No method at all," I murmured.)
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ON THE INTERNET:

NY POST.com: "'TORTURE' REGRETS CHEER OUR ENEMIES" by Adam Brodsky (SNIPPET: "Our new enemies require us to adopt new standards. But never for a moment should anyone think such changes compromise our moral standing. Self-flagellation and restraint won't make us more noble. But they might just make us more ... dead.") (Updated May 1, 2009, 4:33 am)
DEFENSElink.mil (AMERICAN FORCES PRESS SERVICE): Washington - "PENTAGON TO RELEASE PHOTOS FROM DETAINEE CUSTODY INVESTIGATIONS" by Gerry J. Gilmore (April 24, 2009)

Link (pdf)

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DEFENSElink.mil (AMERICAN FORCES PRESS SERVICE): Washington - "SPOKESMAN CITES PENTAGON COOPERATION IN INTERROGATION PROBE" by Gerry J. Gilmore (April 22, 2009)



FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "THE BUSH 'TORTURE' LAWYERS: NO BETTER THAN TERRORISTS?" by Joseph Klein (SNIPPET: "Congress adopted this definition in a 1994 law criminalizing torture committed abroad. If Congress had wished to declare waterboarding or the other specific techniques used by the CIA to be included within the law criminalizing torture, they could have done so for the past seven years but did not. This is telling, considering Nancy Pelosi was briefed upon these techniques in detail. Like the United Nations' Special Rapporteur on Torture, she is simply another in the long litany of government officials who seem to revel in their own tortuous reasoning, which invariably ends up protecting terrorists. They deserve to be ignored.") (May 5, 2009)
Experts.FOREIGN POLICY.com: "IRREPARABLE DAMAGE" by Thomas Hegghammer (SNIPPET: "Switch to the jihadi Internet forums, where thousands of radical Islamists log on every day to debate religion, politics, and the latest news from the war on terror. Last week there were debates on all kinds of topics, from swine flu to the financial crisis to the alleged capture of the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq. But there was virtually nothing about the torture memos.") (May 4, 2009, 5:10 pm)
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Corner.NATIONAL REVIEW.com: "ANDY McCARTHY SAID 'NO' TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TODAY" by Kathryn Jean Lopez (May 1, 2009)

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WASHINGTON TIMES.com - Exclusive: "CONGRESS TO OVERSEE CIA MORE CLOSELY" by Eli Lake and Bill Gertz (May 1, 2009)

Link (pdf)

STRATFOR.com: "A CHILLING EFFECT ON U.S. COUNTERTERRORISM" (April 29, 2009, 1815 GMT)

FOX NEWS.com: "DESPITE REPORTS, KHALID SHEIKH MOHAMMED WAS NOT WATERBOARDED 183 TIMES" (April 28, 2009)

US DOJ.gov/ag - "100 Days Progress Report" (April 29, 2009)

WEEKLY STANDARD.com: "PREENING & POSTURING Throwing those who guard us while we sleep to the wolves." by William Kristol (SNIPPET: "The dark and painful chapter we have to fear is rather the one President Obama may be ushering in. This would be a chapter in which politicians preen moralistically as they throw patriotic officials, who helped keep this country safe, to the wolves, and in which national leaders posture politically while endangering the nation's security. The preening is ridiculous, even by the standards of contemporary American politics and American liberalism. Obama fatuously asserts there are no real choices in the real world, just "false choices" that he can magically resolve. He foolishly suggests that even in war we would never have to do anything disagreeable for the sake of our security. He talks baby talk to intelligence officers: "Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That’s how we learn."") (May 4, 2009 Issue)
WEEKLY STANDARD.com - blog: "GOSS: OBAMA DECISION "CROSSED A RED LINE"" -Posted by Stephen F. Hayes (SNIPPET: "Porter Goss, former CIA Director and past chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, blasted the Obama administration for releasing Justice Department memos on harsh interrogation techniques. "For the first time in my experience we've crossed the red line of properly protecting our national security in order to gain partisan political advantage," Goss said in an interview.") (April 23, 2009, 1:53 pm)
WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "BOEHNER: CIA METHODS NO SECRET ON HILL" by S.A. Miller (April 23, 2009)

stepping back in time...WASHINGTON POST.com: "HILL BRIEFED ON WATERBOARDING IN 2002 In Meetings, Spy Panels' Chiefs Did Not Protest, Officials Say" by Joby Warrick and Dan Eggen (December 9, 2007)

CNS NEWS.com: "CIA CONFIRMS: WATERBOARDING 9/11 MASTERMIND LED TO INFO THAT ABORTED 9/11-STYLE ATTACK ON LOS ANGELES" by Terence P. Jeffrey (April 21, 2009)

DIRECTOR BLUE - blog: "EXCLUSIVE TEXT: WHAT WATERBOARDING REVEALED" (April 21, 2009)

Transcripts.CNN.com: "STATE OF THE UNION WITH JOHN KING Interview with Janet Napolitano; Interview with Senators Klobuchar, Ensign" (Aired April 19, 2009, 09:00 ET)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "This is Torture?" by Jacob Laksin (SNIPPET: "Nevertheless, the administration erred in releasing the memos.") (April 21, 2009)

DNI.gov - DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: Washington, DC - "STATEMENT BY THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE Mr. Dennis C. Blair (April 21, 2009)

CNN.com: Washington - "EX-CIA CHIEF: OBAMA RISKS NATIONAL SECURITY" (SNIPPET: "A former head of the CIA slammed President Obama on Sunday for releasing four Bush-era memos, saying the new president has compromised national security.") (Updated April 19, 2009, 7:44 p.m. EDT)
Online.WSJ.com: "THE PRESIDENT TIES HIS OWN HANDS ON TERROR The point of interrogation is intelligence, not confession." by Michael Hayden and Michael B. Mukasey (April 17, 2009)
CIA.gov: "MESSAGE FROM THE DIRECTOR: RELEASE OF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OPINIONS Statement to Employees by Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Leon E. Panetta on the Release of Department of Justice Opinions" (April 16, 2009)
US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: "DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE RELEASES FOUR OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL OPINIONS" (April 16, 2009)

WHITEHOUSE.gov: "STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA ON RELEASE OF OLC MEMOS" (April 16, 2009)

FOX NEWS.com: "EX-CIA CHIEF CRITICIZES RELEASE OF INTERROGATION MEMOS Former CIA Director Michael Hayden says release of the memos will give terrorists a precise guide for what to expect in a CIA interrogation if those methods are ever approved for use again" (April 16, 2009)
FOX NEWS.com: "OBAMA MAY RELEASE DETAILS OF CIA's INTERROGATION METHODS USED ON TERROR SUSPECTS" by Brit Hume (SNIPPET: "The president's decision will tell us much about him.") (April 15, 2009)

16 posted on 05/06/2009 12:23:00 AM PDT by Cindy
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