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Barack Obama's Notre Dame visit provokes huge Catholic backlash, PR disaster
Daily Telegraph (London) ^ | May 5, 2009 | Gerald Warner

Posted on 05/05/2009 5:53:21 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Zakeet
Obama will never withdraw his name and divine personage from this event, never.

He WANTS chaos and division in the Catholic Church. Leftists and radicals such as he WANT chaos and division in ALL religions.

When opposition is fully quelled or fearful is the time when they step in and take over total control of their targets.

Obama wants chaos, division and fear in our country's economic situation. Now that he has a great deal of it, he's stepped in to take it over. He wants banks, auto manufacturing, health care, education.....now his sights are set to control Wall Street. Next week it will be a different major target.....undoubtedly freedom of speech (radio).

Chaos and division must continue so the control and destruction of our institutions can continue.

How can we conservatives see things so plainly while the rest of the country watches American Idol and plays Bingo?

And, I should add, Fr. Jenkins, a highly-educated, willful man, is either gulled completely or is an Obama/radical cultist.

Leni

41 posted on 05/05/2009 7:21:00 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Venturer

This will be a typically fraudulent event, with seating assigned according to voting/political preference and TV cameras suddenly “on the blink” in case of protests in the general area. Of course most of that general area will be off limits to conservatives.


42 posted on 05/05/2009 7:33:47 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Well I hope that some undergraduates find a way to sabotage the Messiah’s teleprompters.


43 posted on 05/05/2009 7:34:24 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: NYer
I was reading HERE that Jenkins has refused to meet with student groups who wish to dialgue with him -- even under his strict conditions. He was originally open to it, but has now backed down. What a douche.
44 posted on 05/05/2009 7:36:47 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: Zakeet

"In this instance the Vichy Catholics selling the pass to the anti-life forces have been swamped by genuine Catholics. The university's defiance of the US Bishops' Conference resolution on awards to pro-abortionists has forced the American bishops to denounce Obama publicly. The cracks that were disgracefully papered over by "liberal" Catholics during the presidential election have been split wide open."

"Vichy Catholics" - nice!

When they started whoring after Harvard and worldly prestige they began the process of selling out the faith for diminishing returns. Judas Iscariot got 30 pieces of silver. ND got less - acceptance and approval by liberals, secular humanists, and babykillers.

But they can tell you all about what Rudy Bultmann and Wittgenstein think. Was it really worth it? Well, they've got their fake messiah, Obama. And he will get the fake doctoral degree, sealed with a handshake.
The Oprahfication™ of Notre Dame will be complete.

They should send Kolchak the Night Stalker in to investigate the diabolically obsessed and infested president of ND.

©2009 HMBA

45 posted on 05/05/2009 7:38:22 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: apocalypto

“Yet most Catholics, notably Hispanics, voted for B. Hussein.”

Most of the time, there’s no love lost between the black and Hispanic communities. But, nothing unites like a common enemy — in this case, white people.


46 posted on 05/05/2009 7:39:36 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: silverleaf

Didn’t they call themselves “The Continuing Church” or something in Germany when they knuckled under to Hitler’s state control?


47 posted on 05/05/2009 7:40:42 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: bdeaner
I was reading HERE that Jenkins has refused to meet with student groups who wish to dialgue with him -- even under his strict conditions.

(((( head shaking )))) The irony, of course, is that Fr. Jenkins initially justified his invitation to Obama on the basis of dialoguing with him. Just another ploy. He vastly underestimated the reaction of pro-life Catholics.

48 posted on 05/05/2009 7:42:07 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Cboldt

the biggest problem with that assertion is that Catholics are free to self-identify, which counts a ridiculous % of CINOS. if you took the same % of self identifying Christians, they would also have a disproportionate % voting for Obama. But if you say evangelicals etc. you get a different %. Catholics, unfortunately are tarred with the same brush by being lumped in with CINOS.


49 posted on 05/05/2009 7:46:53 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: marshmallow
That is probably the reason he was so excited about inviting Obama. It's an issue of pride for him to put Obama on parade at graduation, flamboyantly flouting Catholic policy and teaching in "act up" mode. There was something suspicious about the lengths to which he was billing to bend over backwards to accomodate Obama and rationalize the decision with a talking points memo twisting Catholic doctrine, policy, and canon law. They can play Twister together as they bend Notre Dame over.


50 posted on 05/05/2009 7:50:31 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Zakeet

Look, I’m about as Catholic as one can get. My Uncle is a Bishop and I’m at an Uber traditional church where we kneel for communion.

My question is, Where is the Vatican on this?


51 posted on 05/05/2009 7:53:17 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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"(((( head shaking )))) The irony, of course, is that Fr. Jenkins initially justified his invitation to Obama on the basis of dialoguing with him. Just another ploy. He vastly underestimated the reaction of pro-life Catholics." 48 posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:42:07 AM by NYer

Excellent point. The claim of the Land O'Lakes Conference movement to modernize and secularize Catholic colleges and universities was that this would "improve" their educational quality. What good is a Catholic educator who refuses to talk to students??? What kind of college president will not meet with and converse with students? Particularly on grave issues of concern and matters relating to Catholic identity and the Catholic mission of Notre Dame.

52 posted on 05/05/2009 7:55:12 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Yeah, it also jogs my memory concerning a previous controversy at ND. Remember when there was a gay film festival at ND a year or two back and Jenkins said it would go on because "there would be no suppression of free speech" at ND? This despite protests.

It's all making sense now.

The gay film festival.........the Obama invite.......

I think we're seeing a pattern.

53 posted on 05/05/2009 8:00:50 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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-- the biggest problem with that assertion is that Catholics are free to self-identify --

There were plenty of problems with his assertions, and you're right on the money with a big one. I found a number of polls on the subject, provided links and summaries, and my opponent in argument persisted in asserting 2/3rds of Catholics voted for Obama, and a majority of Catholics are pro-choice (implying unrestricted abortion on demand). I accused him of intellectual dishonesty (a long-winded way of calling him a liar), and added him to my ever-growing list of twits.

The left is going to persist in the lie that the negative reaction among Catholics, to Obama's role in the NC commencement, is a "fringe, kook" element of Catholics and society at large, and should be dismissed, marginalized and ridiculed. God bless 'em, because I won't.

54 posted on 05/05/2009 8:27:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mosaicwolf
This is a damn shame. Can you imagine the feelings of the Graduates? This is supposed to be a happy time; a time for celebration not a controversial political event. This is all about politics. If I were among the Notre Dame graduating class I would tell them to send my diploma in the mail.

No this is a golden opportunity for them to stand as Real Catholics, or CINOs. There are about to enter the real world and this will afford them the opportunity to demonstrate how much or how little their faith truly means to them.

I saw a thread last week that said that so far the university is expected to lose over 8 million in donations.

55 posted on 05/05/2009 8:28:37 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: apocalypto

Sadly- there were many white Catholics in my own family who proudly voted for BS.


56 posted on 05/05/2009 9:13:39 AM PDT by kassie (Barry Soetoro is a wanna be rock star on the road to perdition.)
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To: Zakeet

BTTT!


57 posted on 05/05/2009 9:23:24 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: mosaicwolf

It’s not about politics, it’s about a contemporary, invisible holocaust.


58 posted on 05/05/2009 9:56:38 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: marshmallow
Should prove interesting to see if anyone dares to address this aspect of the story.

Obama's coming out party at Notre Dame.

59 posted on 05/05/2009 10:34:53 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: MinuteGal
He WANTS chaos and division in the Catholic Church. Leftists and radicals such as he WANT chaos and division in ALL religions.

I bet, even now, Obama is laughing and licking his chops at this division and particularly at Father Jenkins who is his little dupe. He probably doesn't even see how he is being used by Obama!

Let us pray for Obama and more so for Father Jenkins! FatherJenkins doesn't understand that he is scandalizing the whole church

It isn't just biological parents that need parenting skills!

60 posted on 05/05/2009 11:06:35 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (TOTUS = PONZI)
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