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Palin Joining GOP Rebranding Group
Roll Call ^ | May 4, 2009 | Jackie Kucinich

Posted on 05/04/2009 10:27:57 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R), the 2008 vice presidential nominee, will join a new Republican policy group aimed at reshaping and promoting the party brand.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.)announced Palin’s decision to join the National Council for a New America on Monday night. The group launched late last week and held its first town hall-style forum on Saturday in Virginia.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the 2008 presidential nominee, indicated during a conference call last week that his former running mate had been invited to join the policy panel. The group, which is made up of prominent Republican leaders, plans to hold town hall meetings across the country over the next few months.

Palin’s absence from the group had prompted questions about whether she was snubbing it or being left out.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 111th; biblethumping; cantor; gop; goplite; hijackedthread; mccain; nc4na; ncna; nowaysarah; palin; palinisfinished; proamnesty; rebranding; rebuilding; rino; rinos; romney; romneyantipalin; romneyhitsquad; sarahpalin; toobad
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To: calcowgirl

He was also president of the Louisiana University Systems for a couple of years early on. This group as I understand it oversee some eight university/state colleges outside of the LSU system. So he may could fall in that group also.

One strange thing to me about Jindal is that he’s not held any one job/position for more than a few years. He’s in, out and on to some other endeavor. Thus he’s not been forced to deal with his own changes as they begin to take effect whether good or bad.


401 posted on 05/05/2009 1:45:51 PM PDT by deport
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To: Diogenesis

No, YOU are wrong by continuing to say that Mitt is a polygamist.

He is not, and you know it.


402 posted on 05/05/2009 1:47:27 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Tu ne cede malis.)
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To: Landru

Point taken...:)

It has been my experience in life that one of the hardest things to do is to get people to admit they are wrong about something.

It goes for me too, but I will say that I have had freepers make me come out and say: “I was wrong on that issue” and it took a lot of stump pulling until I had to face the fact that...I simply did not have the right perspective.

The most notable one for me was a Jazz Critic for the Village Voice for the last 45 years who got laid off. My impression was...if he worked for the Village Voice for that long, then he must have been steeped in liberalism, and good riddance to him.

I had a few people call me out on it, and after much tractor pulling, I examined the life of the man and concluded he just didn’t fit that round hole I put him into. I might have been right 98.5% of the time, but...I was simply wrong. It was humbling, and I have tried to keep it as an object lesson.

And this was something that didn’t really mean anything, just some guy I didn’t know and jumped to conclusions on. On an issue of substance, it might have taken nuclear weapons to dislodge me, and I don’t suspect I am all that that different from a lot of people.


403 posted on 05/05/2009 1:49:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

” The rest of us keep loving our kids in spite of their poor decisions.”

It’s funny that we dont cut politicians ANY slack and dont see the analogy here with how we should treat members of our family.

Look at how an honest effort by a number of Republican leaders to help rebuild the GOP is being pilloried by conservatives.


404 posted on 05/05/2009 1:53:40 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

It remains to be seen how honest an attempt it is. With some of the people on board, real conservatives have every right to be cautious and wary.


405 posted on 05/05/2009 1:55:56 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Tu ne cede malis.)
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To: Twink

“Bristol’s a poster child for welfare and feminism? How exactly? “

Actually a poster child for what’s wrong with sexualization of youth and loss of connection between marriage and child rearing.

we have lamented the cultural degeneration that has led to unwed teenage Moms having kids. Too many kids are being born outside marriage and too few are being born inside marriage.


406 posted on 05/05/2009 1:57:01 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

407 posted on 05/05/2009 1:57:24 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Methinks you doth protest too much.
Did not say it.
Instead, gave references showing there is familial Romney expertise.
Want another?
"Romney Family Tree Has Polygamy Branch"



408 posted on 05/05/2009 1:58:16 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“This nut farmer wants Palin held over the barrel for some supposed insufficient contrition of her daughter of age.”

He’s pointing out that her daughter is not a good representative for conservative values; which she is not.
I’ve seen Romney, Jindhal, Gingrich, and Huckabee ripped for much less. I wish freepers would be less personally attacking on ALL Republicans.


409 posted on 05/05/2009 2:02:18 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: counterpunch
This is true of 0bama, and it is true of Eric Cantor. I became skeptical of him when he worked with House GOP leadership to push through the bailout crap sandwich, and now his alliance with McCain codifies it. Sarah Palin is only tarnishing herself by associating herself with this. This leaves Newt Gingrich as our only hope.

Newt would jump on this bandwagon too if he could.

The problem is that we jump the gun on these efforts and assume the worst, rather than taking a more reasonable 'wait and see, give it chance' view. We need to STOP ASSUMING THIS IS A BAD THING, and further assuming that associating with this - even if it doesnt pan out well - is somehow a sign of a bad leader. Actually GOOD leaders try to work with others and try to reach out to the people.

Let them have their townhalls and whatever and see what message they are giving and receiving BEFORE we assume the worst.

Their message on energy is to say NO TO CAP-AND-TRADE. Good message. Maybe even McCain can listen and get on board that.

410 posted on 05/05/2009 2:11:50 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG
The problem is that we jump the gun on these efforts and assume the worst

Given the track record of the people running it, "assuming the worst" is the only reasonable response. Trust is earned, and so is distrust.

So long as any member of the GOP's leadership is allowed in the room while this is being run, we ought to be very, very skeptical.

411 posted on 05/05/2009 2:24:20 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Diogenesis

Methinks you doth think too little before you post:

“Romney? Healthcare expert? What a joke. His only expertise is lying and possibly polygamy.”

“Note that the word “possibly” was used,
and since his grandfather had multiple wives,
it is probably true.”

You imply that Romney is a polygamist.

Am I wrong? Then say so. Say, “Romney is not a polygamist.”


412 posted on 05/05/2009 2:28:45 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Tu ne cede malis.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“The way I see it” ... you make up stuff to justify thinking of Palin the way you want. as in “Kantor’s frantic press release” 3 errors in 4 words.

“I disagree with her decision since I was savoring her silence to their initial invitation.”

Palin’s contradictory move should make you rethink your view of Palin and the group as a whole. Palin’s is behaving differently from your expectations because she - and the other players - are not exactly who you think they are.

http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_huston/2009/05/04/hatin-on-the-gop-the-national-council-for-a-new-america-and-you/


413 posted on 05/05/2009 2:29:48 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Who knows what Romney does? You dont.


414 posted on 05/05/2009 2:31:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Neverforget01

“I wonder if anyone is worthy of public office in your eyes?

No wonder we can’t get good leadership on the Republican side. “

This script can be written about every leader: Cantor, Romney, Jindhal, Gingrich, Boehner, McConnell, Cornyn, Jeb Bush, you name it.

This needs to be read to get some perspective on the effort:
http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_huston/2009/05/04/hatin-on-the-gop-the-national-council-for-a-new-america-and-you/


415 posted on 05/05/2009 2:36:22 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

Get back to me once you discover a clue about what you are talking about.


416 posted on 05/05/2009 2:37:06 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t know why we don’t think conservatism can influence or dominate the pack of RINOs that exist in the party. Sarah Palin is a dynamite communicator on the whole. I just wish she had more time as a governor under her belt.

By “we” I don’t necessarily mean you, Jim, or me...but “herd” mentality that happens when a group’s back is against the wall.

I know we don’t always agree on every issue; the question of course is should we be pragmatic and accomplish what is “possible” or should we be purists and never get anything done.

I don’t believe anyone would assert even Reagan was a purist. At the same time, I don’t think anyone ever doubted his dedication to the conservative ideals. Same with Buckley (though he wasn’t an office holder).

We at the grass roots have to be convinced to support a group or a cause. Certainly if the power brokers are stupid enough to try and uphold John McCain again they’ll lose. In fact, I wonder why he is even in that group. His conservative credentials are incredibly weak.

OTOH, we see some very strong conservatives: Jindal, Pence, and now Palin. I’ll leave out Jeb and Mitt since those two cause such strife; their conservative ideals are under fire from the grass roots.

Newt is another tough nut to crack. He was fine for a season, but now seems afraid to “take on” liberals like Rush Limbaugh does. Or is it just a different tact? Is this group a direct challenge to Newt’s “American Solutions”?

I guess I’m thinking we should give this group a chance, even if we don’t agree with all conclusions, etc.

Hussein has done an incredibly awful job in just 105 days or so...I shudder to think what’ll happen if we have him for 8 years. I’m not advocating the sacrifice of our prinicples, but the adoption of a practical Reaganism...

Frankly, I think Sarah Palin is among the best communicator of that optimistic, encouraging message. If she can do that while still effectively governing her state, I think she’ll be a formidable force in the coming years.

And I think she can be a positive influence in this group of GOP leaders.

IMHO,

RD


417 posted on 05/05/2009 2:37:42 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Scythian

“Palin is finished if she pins her hopes on the Republican Party. She wont even win the primary as they are picked by liberal states, it’s time for a new party, otherwise Sarah has had her 15 minutes ...”

The nuttiest comment yet.


418 posted on 05/05/2009 2:38:52 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG
He’s pointing out that her daughter is not a good representative for conservative values; which she is not.

O.K., let's kill the baby and then lock Bristol away in a nunnery. You'll feel better, no doubt.

419 posted on 05/05/2009 2:40:19 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Kimberly GG
In what respects does she differ from them? I didn’t see any indication before or when she joined McCain’s ticket (everyone made the excuse that she couldn’t differ at the time), or since (in spite of how he’s treated her), that she denounces any position he takes. Excuses were made when she took the bailout. Now she’s participating in a group that is CLEARLY the wrong people going in the wrong direction. Do we make that ‘ok’ too? She’s already stated RHINO talking points about not being able to “round up” millions of illegal aliens and deport them. No one is suggesting that, but it has been used by RHINO’s as an excuse for passing Comprehensive Immigration Reform (AMNESTY). When asked to be clear on if she supports a “path to citizenship” for undocumented immigrants, she said “I do”. I just don’t see how she differs very much from the rest of them. Don’t get me wrong, I wish I did, but I don’t.

Ah ... the Perot Factor ... became the Obama Factor ... and is now the Palin Factor. People engage in wish-fulfillment, ascribing their own views to politicians they support. That's what's going on, why many are not seeing what you clearly see. I too am looking for conservative 'beef'.

Time will tell if Palin's conservative cred is skin deep or in-the-bone.

420 posted on 05/05/2009 2:45:22 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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