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1 posted on 05/03/2009 8:02:08 PM PDT by truthandlife
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Reinstating the Draft..........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2 posted on 05/03/2009 8:06:10 PM PDT by NordP (CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
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WHAT?

I mean

WHAT?!?

James Baker said WHAT? Damn.... (shaking head) just DAMN.
3 posted on 05/03/2009 8:06:12 PM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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I’d love to see the leftist faces when young women are drafted into service. They want equal everything...With all this political correctness, equal rights etc, in the U.S., they’ll get just that.


4 posted on 05/03/2009 8:08:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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He’s still alive? Who knew?


5 posted on 05/03/2009 8:08:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." Machiavelli)
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I pray not. I have teenaged sons, and I sure don’t want them forced to serve under the current White House resident.


6 posted on 05/03/2009 8:10:00 PM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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“But unlikely, he conceded: “You get killed if you support a draft, politically, but it sure would raise the stakes. Everybody would understand a lot better what we have at stake when we go to war.”

Haven’t you heard Jimmie, we don’t declare wars anymore. A draft is nothing but a guarantee of sub-par soldiers in this day and age. The other idiot Rangel whom also supports a draft only does so as a vehicle for organizing anti-war protests in the vain of a left-wing agenda. It has nothing to do with the so-called noble principle of a “national service”.


7 posted on 05/03/2009 8:10:24 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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We should draft a 100,000 each year, train them through basic and a short duration advanced specialization (total active time no more than six months), then return them to civilian life.

They would not be required to serve in either the National Guard nor the Reserves. Only if there was a declared war, such as the two World Wars would they be called back to service.

9 posted on 05/03/2009 8:14:09 PM PDT by richiep (Richie)
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The same way that if everyone pays taxes, then everyone has a stake in the country?


11 posted on 05/03/2009 8:21:41 PM PDT by carola
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Another Bushie sticks his statist face into the media limelight.

STFU Baker, you old fart.

12 posted on 05/03/2009 8:23:48 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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Everybody would understand a lot better what we have at stake when we go to war

Which is why Rangel supports it; what better way to make sure theres draft riots and other disruptions

Thats the last thing anyone wants , except for mischievous leftists and brain dead dinosaurs like Jim Baker.

13 posted on 05/03/2009 8:27:30 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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They ARE talking about the Military and not the obama Youth Corp right?


14 posted on 05/03/2009 8:28:01 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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if it ain’t broke ......


18 posted on 05/03/2009 8:32:56 PM PDT by elpadre (Afganista)
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“But one thing that makes it harder to go to war is to have a draft, because when you have a draft, then everybody’s got a stake in it, and the costs of war are brought home much more vividly and vigorously to the American people.”

I’m sure a web search will turn up all sorts of quotes by the Founders showing their views on filling military ranks from the people at large as opposed to maintaing an equivilently sized standing army of professionals.


22 posted on 05/03/2009 8:45:57 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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OK, everyone, take a deep breath before reacting. Then, think for a minute about our history and let’s gather some facts.

1) Think of a mutual defense pact between the citizens, the states and the Feds - that’s the militia that the Constitution creates.
2) The same Constitution also provides for an Army.
3) The founding generation passed the Militia Act of 1792, which required among other things, that ALL able-bodied white males ages 17-45 be enrolled in the militia.
4) Current Federal law (10 USC 311) is not substantially different in the legal definition of the militia as the Act of 1792, except that all males are included (aka the “unorganized militia”).
5) As originally legislated you had to own a suitable gun, ammo, train, etc. [nota bene] I’d be all for a return to that system.
6) That said, the militia cannot constitutionally be used for foreign adventures (Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution defines the three missions of the Federal militia).
7) The Constitution allows the President to take command of the state’s militias with the approval of the Congress.
8) The draft into the Army, OTOH, is not found in the Constitution.
9) Given the quality of modern jurisprudence you’d NEVER find a Federal judge would have the balls to make a true ruling.

Wouldn’t it be great to get the kids to hate the Democrats by bringing back the draft? I mean we’d have to get the Reps to vote no to a man to make the point, but hey never let a crisis go to waste. What we’re doing to the younger generation with debt is bad enough. Once they figure out what Comandante Zero is doing to them, they’ll never vote for that %^&#@ again. Think Wedge Issue folks!


24 posted on 05/03/2009 8:46:17 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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I agree on this with Baker and Rangel. Reinstate the military draft.


31 posted on 05/03/2009 8:58:35 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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I will not ever support reinstating the draft. Our volunteer system is ideal. And those who have served have my respect. Those are the truly great Americans.


35 posted on 05/03/2009 9:19:53 PM PDT by mysterio
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Baker’s either gone senile or trying to prostitute himself as the Republican whipping boy for ‘Rat draft reinstatement, which is pretty senile in itself.


37 posted on 05/03/2009 9:21:45 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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But one thing that makes it harder to go to war is to have a draft, because when you have a draft, then everybody's got a stake in it, and the costs of war are brought home much more vividly and vigorously to the American people.

I think he has it backwards. A draft probably won't make it substantially harder to go into war, but once we are at war, it will be used politically to bring our involvement in the war to a disastrous, unnecessary end. Anti-war propagandists will make sure that, whatever the facts, the "stake" that everybody's got in the war according to Baker, is seen as too much to bear.
39 posted on 05/03/2009 9:31:11 PM PDT by MitchellC
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2243001/posts?page=223#223


40 posted on 05/03/2009 9:39:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Whoever, whatever party, is stupid enough to bring the draft back will have a dead albatross around their neck.


41 posted on 05/03/2009 9:44:39 PM PDT by pankot
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