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Tamiflu - Is extracted from the Traditional Chinese Medicine herb called Star Anise
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Posted on 05/03/2009 4:37:47 PM PDT by Scythian

Tamiflu comes from an herb To live in a world that's saturated with natural anti-viral medicine and then not even acknowledge it in the media is beyond bizarre. It's Twilight Zone-like. It's like we've been teleported to an alternate universe where anti-viral plants have disappeared... or at least everyone is pretending they have.

Where do you think Tamiflu comes from, by the way?

It's extracted from the Traditional Chinese Medicine herb called Star Anise. It's one of hundreds of different anti-viral herbs found in Chinese Medicine, not to even mention anti-viral herbs from South America, North America, Australia, Africa and other regions.

I find it downright comedic that Big Pharma and the world's health authorities extract their "champion" anti-viral drug Tamiflu from a Chinese Medicine herb, and then they go out of their way to announce to people that herbs and natural remedies are useless against influenza. If that's the case then why are they using herbs to make their own medicine?

How many stories have you read that bother to tell you Tamiflu is made from the star anise herb that's been used for over 5,000 years in Traditional Chinese Medicine? Virtually none. The powers that be don't want anybody to know they could actually grow their own medicine in a garden or a windowsill. If you can grow cilantro, you can grow medicine. If everybody figured that out, Big Pharma wouldn't be reaping the enormous profits it's making right now from Tamiflu sales, and the governments of the world wouldn't be able to scare and control people by promising to distribute Tamiflu (but only if you behave).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anise; antiviral; flu; h1n1; health; medicine; nac; staranise; swineflu; tamiflu
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To: webstersII; All

Actually, I didn’t mean to infer that aspirin is the best medicine for any illness, just that overall it’s still the best (and safest)for various problems on a general basis. I’ve been a Bufferin taken for decades with no side effects at all. The coating helps protect the stomach. It’s the ONLY brand I’ll take.


61 posted on 05/04/2009 6:55:02 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: Scythian

Didn’t I just read last week that Tamiflu is useless against H1N1 (Mexi-Swine Flu) Virus?


62 posted on 05/04/2009 6:57:55 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Scythian
Grapeseed extract is a miracle product. Just make sure the caplets contain the brownish powder, not the white, which for some reason is useless. I miss Trader Joe's!
63 posted on 05/04/2009 7:08:01 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Kozak

placemarker


64 posted on 05/04/2009 7:08:25 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
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To: davetex

You can put in hot tea.

My wife drinks a tea of cinnamon (the actual bark boiled in water) and thyme. She says now that she is going to add the star anise to that.

We are in Shanghai where you see this stuff at every turn.


65 posted on 05/04/2009 7:14:25 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: jdb331

But it still can’t hurt to try teas with star anise. Chinese herbal medicine has some old-wives-tale stuff, but there is also a whole lot of genuine healing properties in the herbs, too.

There are now actual universities of oriental medicines that do modern scientific laboratory research to separate the real stuff from the old-wives-tales, and there is a lot of good research coming out.


66 posted on 05/04/2009 7:19:25 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Kozak

Gagging it down? It’s a tablet, no taste, just swallow it? it’s just a pill?


67 posted on 05/04/2009 7:19:48 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

All the NAC I’ve ever seen in practice ( we use it for Tylenol overdose) is liquid and has a horrendous rotten egg smell. Most people promptly throw it back up. If it comes in tablet form thats news to me.


68 posted on 05/04/2009 7:37:19 AM PDT by Kozak (e)
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To: Kozak
All the NAC I’ve ever seen in practice ( we use it for Tylenol overdose) is liquid and has a horrendous rotten egg smell. Most people promptly throw it back up. If it comes in tablet form thats news to me.

You gotta be kidding me?

http://www.jarrow.com/product/71/NAC_N_Acetyl_L_Cysteine

These are the kind I take:

http://www.jarrow.com/product/323/N_A_C_SUSTAIN

Before that I was taking capsules made by another company, NAC is widely available in non liquid form, in fact, now days that is the norm
69 posted on 05/04/2009 7:47:12 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Most hospitals only stock the liquid form which is usually used in a nebulizer for respiratory treatments. We then use that stuff for the tylenol OD’s. Of course the dose is pretty high at 140 mg/kg as a loading dose and half that every 4 hours after. For an adult that can be 10 to 20 grams of the stuff...


70 posted on 05/04/2009 8:01:59 AM PDT by Kozak (e)
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To: Scythian; Kozak
Worked in many hospitals too....and have never seen Mucomyst in anything but liquid form.

Recently read about another use for it too.....Seems it has some restorative properties for hearing loss secondary from very loud noise type "hearing loss" .

FWIW

71 posted on 05/04/2009 8:08:01 AM PDT by Osage Orange (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. - Will Rodgers)
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To: csmusaret

OK - now you tell me - I just put in an order at iherb! :) Will check out swansons.


72 posted on 05/04/2009 12:28:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

LOL...I told you at 8:39 AM.


73 posted on 05/04/2009 12:31:41 PM PDT by csmusaret (http://www.aipnews.com/)
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To: Scythian

Thanks, I get some asap. ~Pandora~


74 posted on 05/04/2009 2:35:26 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: Big_Monkey

I doubt this will ever go away. First it was the mercury in the vaccines. After that was removed and the autism rate stayed the same (maybe even went up a bit?) then it was the vaccines themselves. Next it will be the needles used to inject the vaccines. People = Idiots


75 posted on 05/04/2009 7:44:21 PM PDT by jdb331
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To: John Leland 1789

Yes, it can hurt. First of all, you never know what is in an herbal medicine. There could be too much of the active ingredient, not enough, or none at all. Also, it is very common to have a dietary supplement to actually work, only to be discovered that it was spiked with the actual drug. This has happened with Viagra and supposedly steroid-free psoriasis meds. And plenty of other cases. I follow this rather closely, and virtually every time a supplement is actually studied in a well designed trial it is found to be useless (or harmful—Google news hydroxycut). Add to this the fact that something coming from a plant is no more likely to be safe than something coming from a lab. In fact, the most poisonous substances on earth come from natural sources. Think about it- the plant have evolved not to be eaten in most cases. Thus the alkaloid toxins.


76 posted on 05/04/2009 7:51:20 PM PDT by jdb331
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To: jdb331; John Leland 1789
First of all, you never know what is in an herbal medicine. There could be too much of the active ingredient, not enough, or none at all.

First of all, that' not really true. Herbs are mostly used for sub-clinical pathologies so it is not necessary for the dose to be measured to such a precise degree. If it's the right plant it will most likely have enough of the right phytochemical to have the intended effect. By the very nature of the way plant medicines are used a little more or a little less makes little difference.

It is unlikely that any plant, reasonably collected and processed, will have no active ingredient. In addition to that, dose critical herbs can be found with tested quantities of active ingredient. That only matter for about a half dozen popular herbs. Pharmaceutical drugs are dosed at or near the toxic dose level, generally speaking, because that is how they work. Herbs are only rarely used at the toxic dose level and you won't find those in a store.

Secondly, herbs processed into formulas, like Chinese Patent Formulas, are concentrated and subject to rigorous processing techniques.

As far as contamination, there are a a few rare examples of poor production techniques and facilities. Pharmaceuticals kill and injure tens of thousands of people every year. Very few people are seriously harmed by herbs.

Think about it- the plant have evolved not to be eaten in most cases. Thus the alkaloid toxins.

That is exactly what makes the majority of plant medicines useful. A specific physiological reaction to a plant toxin produces an effect that is beneficial to the ailing patient whereas it would be an irritant or nuisance effect for a healthy person. Such as a diuretic or expectorant. But there are a good number of phytochemicals that produce more complex effects and are not alkaloids.

Using allopathic criterions to judge the use and effectiveness of whole plant medicines works about as well as doing the reverse. It doesn't work well.

77 posted on 05/04/2009 10:53:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Smokin' Joe

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78 posted on 05/06/2009 4:38:18 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping (Thanks, DvdMom!)


79 posted on 05/06/2009 6:17:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Scythian

We use (N-Acetyl-Cysteine)
http://www.advance-health.com/nacetylcysteine.html


80 posted on 05/06/2009 7:01:25 AM PDT by BellStar (Pedophiles protected by Hate Crime legislation 100% of Democrats Voted for it!)
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