Posted on 05/02/2009 8:21:28 PM PDT by Maelstorm
Not according to the article. You should read it.
There is only one person to blame for this, Mommy just valued heroin more than she did her children. So, Mommy is an unfit mother - she can’t dump them on her parents because of health issues.
Baloney! A multitude of other people share the blame for this atrocity. The social workers, judges, legislators, and voters of that putrid society all share the blame for forcing this child to be adopted against his family's wishes by a couple of overt sexual deviants.
So, do they go to an orphanage, or do they go where they are wanted, will be provided for, will be parents involved - or do we make them wards of the state?
That is some embarrassingly fallacious reasoning you used there. Your false choice of the boy becoming a ward of the state is a simplistic strawman argument. There are a variety of other options available, first and foremost keeping the child with the family he loves and that loves him.
I don’t see where the judge had a whole lot of choice in this matter - and I think the article is missing some KEY factors ....
This is a silly thing to say for someone who clearly didn't read the article.
but hey, what do facts matter when they can leave out some key factors and get some emotions fired up?
What "other factors" could be more important than the fact the child wants to stay with his family and that they want him to stay with them. Any society that would force a child to be given over to perverts like these deserves to fail.
Stories like this lead me to think that Western civilization is doomed
Not entirely doom but well on its way there. The tickets have been purchased and the luggage loaded and the train has long pulled out of the station. The question is whether enough will wake in time to pull the emergency brake.
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You seem pretty willing to ignore the situtaion that the mother brought upon her children. She, and she alone is responsible for what happens to her children. This is why it's called 'Parenting'.
Were the social workers, judges, legislators all supposed to tie mommy up, and imprison her night and day so she wouldn't take drugs? Why is law enforcement suddenly responsible for decisions an individual makes? Do you want law enforment taking over your life - just to 'make sure' you don't make any 'bad decisions' too?
Actions have consequences. The law is not concernced about 'feelings'; they are concerned about the application of 'law'. Being a gay couple (and we will both agree that these are NOT ideal parents), does not preclude them from adoption. This 'couple' wants the children, and is willing to adopt, raise and pay for them. Given the choices available, this was the best that the judge (who knows ALL the factors that this pathetic journalist managed to miss) had to work with.
You weren't there, neither was I. This article is woefully inept; is this gay couple just a random group from off the street? Are there no waiting lists for a man and wife who want to adopt? Are there mental, or physical imparements that the children bring with them? Is there a history of mental abuse in the house? Simply stated - we don't know; but the judge does.
its perposterous.....
Is one of the gay guys the bio-dad?..................
Highly doubtful as likely as you being the bio-dad
The dumb social worker thought they were “too old”????
My mom had my brother when she was 43 (she thought she was starting early menopause. Was she ever suprised.
The whites in these violent groups are by and large Marxists. They are one of the enemy of the compliant working stiff. Muslims aren't necessarily white. They come from all races.
Any group that attempted to stick up for the middleclass defending against the wholesale theft of our wealth by government would mostly be white. You might get Asians to rally. You might get some maverick Blacks to stand with you. You can count on one thing, all the other groups would call you white supremacists even though it's values that are the object.
Biological parents need not apply as foster parents as the article describes the homosexuals as so applying.
Funny, no mention of the bio-Dad is made at all. Wonder why that would be?
Perhaps because it is irrelevant to the issues being discussed.
You seem pretty willing to ignore the situtaion that the mother brought upon her children.
The addiction from which she is recovering is certainly serious, but the article describes her as working to overcome her past transgressions.
She, and she alone is responsible for what happens to her children. This is why it's called 'Parenting'.
Ha!!! If that were true then her children wouldn't be placed with overt sexual deviants and there would be no article.
Were the social workers, judges, legislators all supposed to tie mommy up, and imprison her night and day so she wouldn't take drugs?
That's called prison, but apparently the state doesn't believe that is warranted.
Why is law enforcement suddenly responsible for decisions an individual makes? Do you want law enforment taking over your life - just to 'make sure' you don't make any 'bad decisions' too?
I certainly expect the state to incarcerate me or anyone else who engages in any felonious activity, but at the same time I do not expect the state to take children away from loving families and place them with open perverts.
Actions have consequences. The law is not concernced about 'feelings'; they are concerned about the application of 'law'.
Sorry, there is no law in either our or their country that mandates the removal of children from loving homes and placing them with want-to-be child molesters because their mother once had an addiction.
Being a gay couple (and we will both agree that these are NOT ideal parents), does not preclude them from adoption.
Being sexual deviants should certainly disqualify them for that role, and their society has failed if a child like this can be forced into that situation against the child's, parent's, and grandparents' expressed wishes.
This 'couple' wants the children, and is willing to adopt, raise and pay for them.
"Pay for them"?
Given the choices available, this was the best that the judge (who knows ALL the factors that this pathetic journalist managed to miss) had to work with.
Again, this is completely false. You are clearly projecting yourself into this situation, maybe this is too personal for you. This child has loving and fairly young grandparents without any major issues as well as a recovering mother who loves her child. This is the worst option available but apparently suits the perversity of their legal system and those who support this kind of deviancy.
You weren't there, neither was I.
This is a fallacious red herring, although you do seem strangely sympathetic to the issues in contention.
This article is woefully inept;
The article describes the situation in some depth and nothing portrayed could possible justify this abomination.
is this gay couple just a random group from off the street? Are there no waiting lists for a man and wife who want to adopt? Are there mental, or physical imparements that the children bring with them? Is there a history of mental abuse in the house? Simply stated - we don't know; but the judge does.
All of these considerations are completely irrelevant since none of them could justify the removal of a child from a loving home over to a den of perverts.
I don't think it's that simple. Any attempt by indigenous British people to organize into a violent angry identity group would immediately be crushed by the full police power of the State.
Has this judge not ever heard of MEDICATION? Forty-six and even fifty-nine are neither one ancient. They should both be okay until the kids are grown enough at least to take care of themselves. - This is what happens in a society that ignores the scriptural teachings and allows a stamp of approval on lewd and ungodly behavior in the name of “tolerance”.
OMG!! Hell to those people that stopped these children from being with thweir GRANDPARENTS....HELL to them!!
Amen...we are doomed BECAUSE of this kind of CRAP and abortion!! Doomed unless Good Christians take a stand and say ENOUGH!!!!
Ann, there’s another problem here. Many Christians wrongly understand their faith. There are many organizations that are preaching the word of God erroneously. We have Christians that wrongly believe individual liberty must be sacrificed for the greater good. I think we have many good but confused Christians that are inadvertently working against us by diluting and misinterpreting the word of God.
The grandfather is 59. The NHS isn’t going to do a bypass on an elderly man like that. He’s going to die soon, anyway.
Just channelling the British bureaucratic mindset.
And those gay parents will have a terrible time with this child. He will resent them for taking him away from his family.
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