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Swine Flu Is No Excuse for Ignorant Behavior: Young Latinos react to anti-Mexican sentiment (Barfer)
New America Media ^ | May 2, 2009

Posted on 05/02/2009 3:44:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Editors Note : During a recent presidential address, President Obama was confronted with a barrage of questions about closing the border between the U.S. and Mexico. While the president remains confident that closing the border is not the solution, Swine Flu is exacerbating anti-immigrant sentiment. We asked several young Latinos if they felt the Swine Flu scare was changing the way they were being treated on a daily basis. The authors are interns for The Beat Within.

The Swine Flu is a sickness discovered in Mexico, not in Mexican Americans! While Listening to President Obama give an address on MSNBC about issues happening around the country, I learned a few things: First, the economy is still in the toilet – (well, actually I already knew that one since I’ve been looking for a job for like four months). Second, the Swine Flu is a sickness that has been discovered in Mexico, not in Mexican Americans.

The H1/N1 virus is supposedly a hybrid mixture of the Avian Bird flu, the human flu and swine flu. For all we know, it could have been brought into the states by one of those silly European tourist. I hate to sound so semi–racist, but an issue of racism happened to me on the bus today and it made me concerned about the level of ignorance going on right now. I mean people are jumping to conclusions about Mexicans being the sole source and transmitters of this virus.

Take today, for instance: I headed out of the house after watching the presidential speech about the swine sickness and really didn’t think much about it, until later that morning.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: flu; illegalimmigration; immigration; influenza; mexicanswineflu; mexiflu; obama; pandemic; swineflu
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Closing the borders would be racist. /s
1 posted on 05/02/2009 3:44:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Don’t fall for the hype:

DR. MARC SIEGEL: Swine Flu — It’s Not the Killer You Think It Is

FOX News Medical Contributor/Associate Professor, NYU School of Medicine/Author, “False Alarm; the Truth About the Epidemic of Fear and Bird Flu: Everything You Need to Know About the Next Pandemic”

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/05/02/siegel_swine_flu_h1n1/


2 posted on 05/02/2009 3:48:53 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hate to sound so semi–racist

Hater.

3 posted on 05/02/2009 3:50:18 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Also see:

Only 7 swine flu deaths, not 152, says WHO

http://www.smh.com.au/world/only-7-swine-flu-deaths-not-152-says-who-20090429-aml1.html

For how the Public Health Establishment routinely fans the flames of panic over minor disease outbreaks for political reasons, see (mentions Swine Flu):

The Medical CIA

http://www.attacreport.com/ar_archives/art_aids_spin_eis1.htm


4 posted on 05/02/2009 3:50:54 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Posting stories about Swine H1N1 Flu with the word "Mexican" in it....is racist./s
5 posted on 05/02/2009 3:52:32 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: GodGunsGuts
A good piece from the Cleveland (OH) Plain Dealer on this 'pandemic'.
6 posted on 05/02/2009 3:53:46 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This just in from Sesame Street News:
The letters H and N are outraged, and the number 1 is doubly insulted.

Time, once again, to rename this strain in order to be politically correct..

7 posted on 05/02/2009 3:54:14 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Closing the borders would be racist

It's not sarcasm anymore. That is in fact what they are insisting: the border is racist.

I have been pointing this out on this forum for 8 years. This is where the "civil rights" revolution has taken us: to the de-legitimization of the nation.

Which is precisely what the enemies - domestic and foreign - want.

Taken to its logical extreme, the conclusion is clear: the United States have no right to defend their borders against an invasion, as long as that invasion is conducted by predominantly non-Whites, or the special class of European Whites known as "Hispanics", which is bizarre when you consider their rapacious and vicious history (Cortez was a disadvantaged minority?).

And now The Freak Napolitano won't even do what is right to prevent the spread of a pandemic. How many will die so that she can appear to be "non-racist"?

The famous words of Justice Jackson come to mind...."The Constitution is not a suicide pact".

8 posted on 05/02/2009 3:59:19 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property)
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To: ex91B10

Excellent! You should post it, and include all the other links that show this so-called “pandemic” in the making for the sham political opportunism that it really is!


9 posted on 05/02/2009 4:01:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: ex91B10

Note to self: Buy more 12 guage shells.

ZOMBIE ALERT!


10 posted on 05/02/2009 4:14:44 PM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Closing borders racist or not. It doesn’t matter. It wouldn’t have contained the flu. It would still have gone to Spain/Europe and jumped across the Atlantic that way. Once a contagious virus gets to a major city and then to an international airport...

The world is a network. Even with two oceans keeping the US at a reasonable distance from the world, the US is still connected to all the rest of the world via its aiports- which is just like having all those countries right next door on the border. The oceans get rendered meaningless as barriers. Once something starts hopping through a network, it’s over. Doesn’t really matter where it starts.


11 posted on 05/02/2009 4:35:36 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Regulator

YES....I’m going to send the President of the House, Dave Hunt, here in the Oregon Legislature a little note....since he was a speaker at the “Immigration Rally” here yesterday.....that I guess it’s okay that we come to his house and eat out of his refrigerator....anytime we’re hungry.


12 posted on 05/02/2009 4:39:55 PM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Swine flu gig is starting to sound like another scam and hoax by the Commie ‘RATS. Maybe they should have taken a twofer and called it the “global warming flu” and blamed it on the melting polar caps and disappearing polar bears. Anyone who trusts the BO regime is a real bonehead.


13 posted on 05/02/2009 4:43:25 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Politicians always love to talk about "hard work." What the hell would they know about it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was never aware of the existance of NAM. This crap just goes on and on...


14 posted on 05/02/2009 5:29:23 PM PDT by VR-21 (Think it's time we stop, Hey what's that sound.....)
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To: Prodigal Son
Your network point is valid, but:

The first wave of non-Mexicans appeared to be affected in Cancun, while the Mexican government has denied any significant impact there (to try to save tourist dollars). If the Mexican government had been vigilant (and honest) most of those tourists would have been warned away from that destination and far fewer folks would have been the first international wave.

In 1918 there were four times as many deaths in cities that failed to take basic preventive measures as elsewhere.

Government coverups of epidemics are a violation of international treaty. There should be consequences for Mexico as a result of this fiasco.

(Mexico's defense, btw, is that WHO sat on this info for six days. The problem with their defense is that they failed to identify Cancun as an epicenter within the country so timely WHO review would have had minimal international effect.)


15 posted on 05/02/2009 5:43:48 PM PDT by cgbg (Cap and trade + electric cars = stranded and broke.)
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Don't Fall for the Hype!!!

Swine Flu — It’s Not the Killer You Think It Is

Only 7 swine flu deaths, not 152, says WHO

It's the flu, folks, not the plague

To see how the public health movement regularly manipulates the public to support their radical leftist political agenda, see the following:

The Medical CIA

The Hidden Agenda

 


16 posted on 05/02/2009 6:07:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: cgbg
I hear what you're saying.

In 1918, air travel just didn't exist. But even without air travel it wasn't possible to stop it. That's pretty much impossible once it gets into a large travel hub.

Containment, it seems to me, is a race between information and the virus. It's really about how quickly they both spread. Does the virus outrun the news about the virus or not? The virus always has a head start. Cancun is a tourist destination for people from around the world. Once a couple of infected tourists get on the plane home- that's that. It's accomplished in a matter of hours.

With some of the viruses you hear about in Africa, the main factor there that keeps them from spreading is the fact that some of these places are out of the way and not too many tourists are there in the first place. The virus never gets a chance to jump continents because there are few people in the middle of the jungle in the Congo who are enroute to an airport back to Europe or North America. Plus, some of those viruses are so nasty and the symptoms the victims present are so overt (blood running out every bodily orifice is a dead give-away) that even though the virus has a head start in the info v virus race, the information quickly catches up. You know- 'Run!!! A very terrible thing approacheth!'. Even if a few tourists did catch it- they'd never be able to get on the plane in that state.

I don't think there would have been that much the Mexican gov't could have done to contain it. That's just my opinion obviously and people here are free to disagree. It's not that it was in Mexico- it's where in Mexico. If it had been way out in the middle of nowhere, maybe it could have been contained. But Cancun? With the tourist factor? I just don't see how. Some carriers wouldn't have even known they were infected when they got on the plane home (the two Scots come to mind). And once they got back home they infected others without realising it. The advantage we have in the UK though is by that time, we knew the virus was possibly coming and containment measures were already being implemented. Even with these measures though, it is doubtful they will contain it fully (and I'm just waiting for the first cases to appear in Edinburgh).

I just see it like- Cancun (tourist destination) + tourists travelling to all points of the globe to get home + air travel being the vector = no hope of containment.

It makes me think about the original Typhoid Mary of HIV/AIDS. The virus began in Africa as we all know. HIV isn't highly contagious like an airborne virus like the flu. Its vector is mainly behaviour, which is obviously controllable. Its spread might could have been contained but for the factor of air travel.

The Typhoid Mary of HIV was a gay flight attendant. He was apparently a good looking/sought after sexual partner and he had partners at every port of call he came to. Given that people who would have hooked up with this guy would probably have been highly promiscuous as well, it didn't take long for the virus to get around. And obviously the really big complicating factor with HIV was that it was unknown. Nobody had a clue. And it takes so long to present itself as AIDS that the virus simply outpaced the information that was vital to combat it.

I guess, at the end of the day, all I'm saying is- it could have happened in Canada as easily as in Mexico and the result would have been the same. Once it got to Toronto Airport- boom, end of containment possibility. Closing the border would not have worked there either.

Myself, I think of viruses as a normal part of life. They've always been out there. I don't think there's too much we can do about it. One day there will be another bad one. If that's how I go, well, that's how I go.

17 posted on 05/02/2009 6:18:50 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: GodGunsGuts
I have a link as well:

http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-1.htm

This is where the government and media get their talking points.

We are currently at a 5 and could be at a 6 any day.

At 6 they announce: "This is not a drill."


18 posted on 05/03/2009 1:08:23 AM PDT by cgbg (Cap and trade + electric cars = stranded and broke.)
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The Swine Flu is a sickness discovered in Mexico, not in Mexican Americans!

It's in Mexican Mexicans?

19 posted on 05/03/2009 2:00:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: cgbg
The one thing this outbreak has done is expose how current policy regarding travel, legal and illegal, has made the population of the planet vulnerable to a really nasty disease. Had this been as bad as the 1918 flu, the outcome might be significantly different.

It would be prudent to review disaster planning, from the individual/family level to local and regional pandemic plans, all the way to the Federal level, and it would be prudent for individuals to be capable of providing as much for themselves for as long as possible in the event of a really deadly outbreak.

Keep in mind that the last four serious outbreaks of flu were preceded in the spring by a mild version, followed by a more deadly version starting in early fall/late summer.

I am not saying that will happen this time, just that that is what happened in 1918.

We are no less vulnerable despite our technology and advanced medical knowledge, really, because the sheer numbers of patients who will overwhelm the system.

Despite the internet, despite the CDC, the WHO, and other reporting agencies, and the electronic media, the virus got out ahead of the news. Thankfully, it has not been a major killer.

While there is no cause for panic, we should all think about the future, and not rely on government to save us.

20 posted on 05/03/2009 2:14:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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