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To: Gordon Greene
P.S. There are many dictionary definitions of theory several of which I have posted below. You can choose whichever you like if you wish to simply call someone elses ideas silly. It’s a free country... for now. Theory: a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. contemplation or speculation. guess or conjecture.

I didn't call your ideas silly, I called your argument on a specific point silly.

Words mean things. Theory, as used in science does NOT mean "guess or conjecture". "Theory" has different meanings in different scientific fields, but it is not indicative of a guess, conjecture, contemplation or any other conversational use of the word. I suspect that you know that after searching the internet for a definition that fits your misuse of the term.

A theory can not be "proved out". A theory cannot be proven true, nor does it claim to be "true". It can be proven false, if what it describes in proven false, but then it changes to describe the new facts that are known or discarded. A theory describes what is known, as the facts change, the theory changes.

Unlike some people.

129 posted on 05/01/2009 4:34:24 PM PDT by Unruly Human
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To: Unruly Human; GodGunsGuts

“A theory describes what is known, as the facts change, the theory changes.

Unlike some people.” Number one, thank you for informing me of the importance of words. Definitions mean things as well. You are doing just what any good, unchangeable scientific-minded individual does... when you’re wrong you just redefine the parameters until you can call your findings “correct”. What you’ve said below describes exactly that and what you’ve accused me of...

“A theory can not be “proved out”. A theory cannot be proven true, nor does it claim to be “true”. It can be proven false, if what it describes in proven false, but then it changes to describe the new facts that are known or discarded.” This, my friend is a perfect definition of conjecture.

Although you won’t admit it, what you’ve explained is no different than what I presented. A theory is simply conjecture based on facts or it could not be disproven. And you still did not bother to answer the charge that with all the millions of years of data available why the proof of evolution is nowhere to be found.

I’m theorizing there is a good reason for that. Of course I have no proof.


130 posted on 05/01/2009 4:51:42 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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