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Mayor, MPD Chief Rip AG Carry Gun Memo(former Romney Sec. of Public Safety)
TMJ-4 ^ | April 22, 2009 | Tom Murray

Posted on 04/29/2009 11:03:34 AM PDT by ellery

MILWAUKEE - Outdoorsman, gun enthusiast and NRA member Ben Auer believes Wisconsin Attorney General JB Van Hollen just made it easier to carry a gun in public.

“He looked at our right and he confirmed it,” Auer told TODAY’S TMJ4 reporter Tom Murray.

Van Hollen told prosecutors in a memo that simply carrying a firearm should not result in a disorderly conduct charge.

“A number of different district attorneys from around the state requested our opinion on this issue,” Van Hollen said. “When you have people who openly believed that carrying a firearm in and of itself was disorderly conduct, we wanted to clarify that most certainly that was not.”

Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn disagrees. He said he instructs his officers to operate believing that most of the guns they see are illegal.

“We have a moral obligation to the community to protect it from people carrying firearms,” Flynn said. “You’re carrying a gun in Milwaukee, you’re going to comply with our lawful orders. Unless, you’re going to have your permit tattooed to your head, I don’t know how you’re going to get around that.”

Flynn has the support of Mayor Tom Barrett, who spoke Wednesday at an anti-gun violence event in the City Hall rotunda. Organizers put 450 t-shirts on display to represent the average number of people killed by guns in Wisconsin each year.

“I understand where sportsman and hunters want to have guns to shoot at animals. I don’t have a problem with that,” Barrett said. “There is a difference between Vilas County and the City of Milwaukee.”

Governor Jim Doyle also criticized Van Hollen’s advisory.

"It's ridiculous to think that somebody should walk down Wisconsin Avenue with a loaded firearm on their hip,” Doyle told reporters Tuesday. “But that's very different from what you might do in a smaller northern Wisconsin community."

Deborah Harris lost her 26-year-old son to gun violence. He was murdered in Milwaukee three years ago. Now she’s speaking out against the attorney general.

“I’m just hoping we can get a control on the guns,” Harris said. “I don’t believe that you should be able to carry a weapon on the streets or even in any part of the city limits.”

Van Hollen declined to specify where and under what circumstances carry guns openly is legal. He said it is up to gun owners to understand the law.


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Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn disagrees. He said he instructs his officers to operate believing that most of the guns they see are illegal.

“We have a moral obligation to the community to protect it from people carrying firearms,” Flynn said. “You’re carrying a gun in Milwaukee, you’re going to comply with our lawful orders. Unless, you’re going to have your permit tattooed to your head, I don’t know how you’re going to get around that.”

Ed Flynn is Mitt Romney's former Secretary of Public Safety in Massachusetts.

1 posted on 04/29/2009 11:03:34 AM PDT by ellery
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To: ellery

Related article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2240064/posts


2 posted on 04/29/2009 11:05:34 AM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: bamahead

ping to a related article


3 posted on 04/29/2009 11:05:58 AM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery
Ed Flynn is Mitt Romney's former Secretary of Public Safety in Massachusetts.

How long ago was that? And, what relevance does it have to his actions today?

4 posted on 04/29/2009 11:10:01 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: ellery
"...Organizers put 450 t-shirts on display to represent the average number of people killed by guns in Wisconsin each year..."

No one is killed by a gun.

They may be killed by another person with a gun (or a stick, or a knife, or a car, or even a toilet plunger for God's sake).

They may even be killed by themselves with a gun.

But no one is killed by a gun.

Journalistic Idiots!!!

5 posted on 04/29/2009 11:13:57 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Obama, Acting President's Apprentice (OJT))
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To: ellery
Deborah Harris lost her 26-year-old son to gun violence. He was murdered in Milwaukee three years ago. Now she’s speaking out against the attorney general.

If her son had been openly carrying, he may not have been targeted or may even had defended himself. I woild also guess the shooter was already a criminal who probably doesn't carry his piece openly.

6 posted on 04/29/2009 11:15:55 AM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: ellery

Gun control advocates are separated from reality.


7 posted on 04/29/2009 11:19:28 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: raybbr

Simply mentioning a previous job he had.


8 posted on 04/29/2009 11:19:53 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: raybbr
How long ago was that? And, what relevance does it have to his actions today?

Flynn was Romney's Sec. of Public Safety until 2006. People will have to decide for themselves whether the type of people politicians appoint to their cabinets are relevant.

9 posted on 04/29/2009 11:22:12 AM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Allegra; CanadianMusherinMI; Clemenza; Diogenesis; ejonesie22; EternalVigilance; Finny; ...

*ping*


10 posted on 04/29/2009 11:44:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ellery
It very relevent to know who politicians appoint and their positions. I knew he was anti-gun. Between that and Romney care I couldn't vote for him.
11 posted on 04/29/2009 12:02:47 PM PDT by smithandwesson76subgun (full auto fun)
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To: ellery
People will have to decide for themselves whether the type of people politicians appoint to their cabinets are relevant.

What was Flynn's position under Romney?

12 posted on 04/29/2009 12:10:33 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

Romney appointed Flynn his Secretary of Public Safety.


13 posted on 04/29/2009 12:27:38 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery
“SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”

SUE THESE BASTARDS FOR VIOLATING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS... SUE THEM PERSONALLY UNTIL THEIR LIVES ARE DESTROYED... TAKE EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE... LEAVE THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES ON THE STREETS AS BEGGARS!

LLS

14 posted on 04/29/2009 12:30:41 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: ellery
mitt romney... rat from ratville and his peeps... just like kennedy... no difference, excpet for pretty hair and mitt is not a public drunk... but that is it!

LLS

15 posted on 04/29/2009 12:32:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: ellery
Romney appointed Flynn his Secretary of Public Safety.

I got that part. Apparently you are trying to paint Romney with a negative brush based on Flynn's stand on what it happening in Milwaukee. Again, I ask. What was Flynn's stand on the Second Amendment under Mitt Romney.

16 posted on 04/29/2009 12:34:26 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: ellery
I don’t believe that you should be able to carry a weapon on the streets or even in any part of the city limits.”

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Pretty radical stuff... - very hard to understand

17 posted on 04/29/2009 12:47:35 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: ellery
The right of enjoying and defending life consists in a person's legal and uninterrupted enjoyment of his life, his limbs, his body, his health, and in resisting, even to the commission of homicide, where such resistance is necessary to save one's own life.

The right of enjoying and defending life, without the privilege of protecting it by all the means which the law as well as nature, in extreme cases, furnishes, would be illusory to the last degree. Therefore, this privilege belongs to us, and, by the Constitution of the United States, to every other citizen of the United States in common with us.

Douglass v. Stephens, 1821

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a4_2_1s17.html

18 posted on 04/29/2009 12:50:00 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: raybbr
And, what relevance does it have to his actions today?

Ever seen a leopard change its spots?

I haven't either.

19 posted on 04/29/2009 12:50:51 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: raybbr

I’m not painting anything — just pointing out the views of his former Secretary of Public Safety. Flynn is such a radical gun grabber that he’s willing to defy the AG of his state — use his the police as his personal stormtroopers to take down people exercising their second amendment rights.

You think Flynn was a staunch second amendment supporter three years ago when he worked for Romney, and has just undergone a radical change of philosophy since then?


20 posted on 04/29/2009 12:51:37 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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