[Jim Noble]

Really? And you can prove otherwise?

I don't have to prove it is NOT a manufactured crisis. It's real, it's major, and the size and scope of the problem are both, for the moment, unknowable.

[Cboldt]

-- It's real, it's major, and the size and scope of the problem are both, for the moment, unknowable --

Please clarify how "major" and "size and scope unknowable" are simultaneously true.