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Why can't conservatives admit George Bush broke America? (Salon's anonymous "conservaive" explains)
Salon.com ^ | April 27, 2009 | Glenallen Walken

Posted on 04/28/2009 12:33:24 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: presidio9

George Bush broke it, but zero broke it more. And in much less time.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 12:46:20 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (We have our own pirates. They're called politicians.)
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To: presidio9
It is fallacious to argue that George W. Bush or any other American president can or could "break" the United States.

I used to believe this, now I am not so sure it holds water anymore.

22 posted on 04/28/2009 12:46:21 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: donna

Hey, he got elected promising a “new tone” and he followed through with that promise.

He CAN veto, but WE shouldn’t re-elect gasbags that put that much spending in a bill in the first place.


23 posted on 04/28/2009 12:47:05 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: American_Centurion

And the results were so successful. Thank you President Bush. /sar


24 posted on 04/28/2009 12:51:24 PM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: " ...all of us, who consider ourselves progressive...")
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To: presidio9

Regarding regulation: People forget the role of:

Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980

Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982

Tax Reform Act of 1986

And lets not forget the deregulatory efforts of the Keating Five (4 of whom were Democrats, the 5th being J. McCain)

The economic mess is not the fault of one party.

Gramm/Leach/Bliley — the bill that repealed Glass Steagall — was a fully bipartisan effort. It passed the Senate 90-8.

Had every Senator voted down party lines the bill would have failed 56-44, and Clinton could have vetoed it. He wouldn’t have though, because he later voiced support for the bill.

It is comforting for the left to blame Bush and the GOP, but this is Americas mess — the fault lies with both parties as well as the electorate who put them in power.


25 posted on 04/28/2009 12:52:00 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: presidio9
George Bush fractured the republican party, not America..
In ten years Bush will be a democrat HERO..
He prepared the way for the Affirmative Active president...

America who is your missing Daddy?..
O'bama is his name..

26 posted on 04/28/2009 12:52:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: servantboy777
“Hell, Bush wasn't much better.

Billions for Aids in Africa.

Border remained wide open.

Huge entitlement Rx program.

780 billion stimulus that had to be passed now now now!

If it quacks like a duck.....”

Add Rebuilding Iraq too that list With W smiling as they Crept along at a Snails Pace..We should have been out of there in the first 6 months.. Now if someone would ask me if losing this country was a fair trade for that horse manure over there,, HELL NO Again that Moron W has left his mark.

27 posted on 04/28/2009 12:56:53 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Antoninus
"When I think of the Republican "brand" I think of an giant derelict sign over a store that's been out of business for 5 years. "

Exactly. For a while the country was telling the Republicans they were on the wrong course. Bush was locked into staying the course heading over the cliff.

28 posted on 04/28/2009 12:58:19 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Oldexpat

The Rats being in complete control is a blessing in disguise. Within a few months they will “own” everthing that comes out of Washington, from bad to worse. Maybe then the American people will get a clear picture of the Democrats total incompetence.


29 posted on 04/28/2009 12:58:47 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: Alberta's Child
A bunch up here at work kept wondering, “why is Bush acting like a liberal”.

We came to the conclusion that GWB was attempting to court moderates.

We all were dead sure that Bush was waiting until his reelection, then he'd take his policies hard right.

Wrooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnngggggggg!!!!!

After the election, he turned more liberal.

Compassionate conservatism....yea right, we shoulda seen’r comin.

Then there's the “Maverick for Change” John McCain. What a freakin joke.

Man, a person would get absolutely tore up talkin bad bout Johnny Dem on this forum.

30 posted on 04/28/2009 12:59:53 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: presidio9

No, it was Deocrats’ subprime mortgages that “broke” America.


31 posted on 04/28/2009 1:00:37 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: servantboy777
Yes, the Bush legacy is the election of Obama and a filibuster proof democrat Senate. That is really all you need to know about Bush. Great job there, Jorge. /s.
32 posted on 04/28/2009 1:08:05 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: presidio9

Bush had almost nothing to do with “it”. The fault lay in the Congress and the filthy turds who run corporate America. The true causes were present during the last several administrations.


33 posted on 04/28/2009 1:13:00 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: presidio9

I don’t consider GWB a conservative.


34 posted on 04/28/2009 1:14:08 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: presidio9

As far as lasting/significant changes and/or differences in governing style I honestly don’t see much difference domestically between Clinton & Bush. Obviously one is revered and one reviled by the left.

Bush ran a lot of things on auto-pilot except he was only too happy to write more blank checks. Suddenly this is a problem for liberals?

The left continuously wants to reduce it all to Bush=Iraq and that’s too simplistic to ever be true or accurate. The fact that we achieved victory is what drove them over the edge.


35 posted on 04/28/2009 1:16:34 PM PDT by relictele
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To: presidio9

THE DEMONRATS ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR AMERICA’S POOR IMAGE BY SPREADING LIES AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE WAR IN IRAQ, TORTURE, INTELLIGENCE GATHERING, THE PATRIOT ACT, WAR CRIMES, ETC.


36 posted on 04/28/2009 1:17:22 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: presidio9

Would we even be having this debate if the economy was not in the sh*tter.
Bush was a lot of things, but everyone thinks he had that much control over the economy.

Here is who you can thnak for this mess:
1) Greedy DEMS who pushed homeownership for anyone & everyone for votes and campaign money.
2) Greedy mortgage brokers who lied and cheated to get anyone with a pulse a mortgage.
3) Greed Bankers who packaged up the sh*tty mortgages into CDO’s and sold them all over the world.
4) Greedy Rating Agencies that stamped these sh*tty blocks of mortgages as “AAA” rated securities.
5) Greedy & Stupid AIG executives who insured these sh*tty CDO’s (groups of sh*tty mortgages).
6) The SEC and the Government Banking officials (Fwank and Dodd) who looked the other way while all this was going on.

Blame Bush all that you want, but he did not have that much control, especially from 2006 and on.


37 posted on 04/28/2009 1:19:02 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: Lorianne

so the economy went down because of deregulation?

if only the government was there to protect us, we’d be in great shape right?


38 posted on 04/28/2009 1:19:08 PM PDT by GreatDaggar
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To: presidio9

Bush ended the Reagan Revolution in the Republican Party, now the Rockefeller wing is firmly back in control.


39 posted on 04/28/2009 1:19:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Robert DeLong

American president can or could “break” the United States.Get ready for the first time.


40 posted on 04/28/2009 1:19:46 PM PDT by Bitsy
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