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From everything I've heard, this will force Government Motors into bankruptcy, Chapter 11.
1 posted on 04/28/2009 10:48:32 AM PDT by Kieri
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There must be a downside.


2 posted on 04/28/2009 10:50:00 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The age of 0bama: the transient ischemic delusions of adequacy decade.)
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Good. They need the BK for a cram down on the unions which is what killed them. Otherwise, watch tax $$ fund the unions for decades to come...


3 posted on 04/28/2009 10:50:40 AM PDT by eureka! (Elections have consequences, boy howdy. *sigh*)
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As GM goes, so goes America - In the current case that direction is socialist.
4 posted on 04/28/2009 10:51:34 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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In a real bankruptcy, one where you hope to remain viable and fight another day, bond holders go to the front of the line ... Not first out the rabbit hole


5 posted on 04/28/2009 10:51:45 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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"GM's offer is inadequate and shows favoritism to the United Auto Workers union"

Of course it does, now.

7 posted on 04/28/2009 10:52:13 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Keeping the feds out of GM as much as possible is good for GM and good for america.


8 posted on 04/28/2009 10:53:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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If the government owns the majority stake in
GM it will not go bankrupt. Instead, we, the taxpayers will end up funding a failure.


9 posted on 04/28/2009 10:54:04 AM PDT by Melchior
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Shouldn’t a judge be presiding over this? The UAW has $10B and gets 39%, whereas bondholders have $27B and get 10%? How is this legal?


10 posted on 04/28/2009 10:55:21 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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These aren't just bondholders, mind you. Some of them are secured bondholders.

There's no way in hell they should be forced to settle for 5 or 10 cents on the dollar.

Enough with the fascist bullshit already. Time to file.

13 posted on 04/28/2009 10:57:18 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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The UAW would receive about a 39 percent stake in GM if it agrees to take $10 billion in health care trust payments in stock. Bondholders will get a 10 percent stake in GM if 90 percent of its $27 billion in unsecured debt is swapped for stock.

Pretty fuzzy math, wouldn't you say!

16 posted on 04/28/2009 10:58:20 AM PDT by PDMiller
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Bond holders get 10% for their $27 billion and the left wing who caused it gets 39% for a lie that says they would have gotten $10 billion for health care but when one is bankrupt there is no money to pay for health care. And the socialist get 50% of the company. So the people that have invested in bonds will be eliminated and their retirement money will be gone and given to the anti-American left. And the anti-American left who caused this in the first place will be placed in charge. I do not think that I will ever again buy a GM car.


18 posted on 04/28/2009 10:58:41 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (I will always be a Soldier)
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The offer it made to the bondholders would be an antrocity. It would leave the government and UAW in control of 90% of the stock, plus they would still have some debt claims. The bondholders whould only end up with 10% of the stock and have their debt claims written down to zero. It is hard to find an example of a greater financial injustice.

More than ever, it is absolutely imperative that a bankruptcy court judge resolve GM. Otherwise we will be left with a state and union owned entity permanently sucking the public teat.

20 posted on 04/28/2009 11:00:40 AM PDT by curiosity
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Good on the bond holders. Zero’s sweetheart deal for the unions goes down in flames.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 11:00:55 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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Obama is ALREADY paying off the Unions!!!


26 posted on 04/28/2009 11:02:45 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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This wasn’t an offer, it was an Attempted robbery !!


27 posted on 04/28/2009 11:02:53 AM PDT by 4Speed
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What’s good for GM is good for America...................


31 posted on 04/28/2009 11:06:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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Is the Feds total investment in GM at this point $17 billion? I can”t remeber exactly.

At any rate for roughly $17 billion the Feds get 50%, for $10 billion the UAW gets 39%, and for roughly $24.3 billion (90% of $27 billion) the bondholders get 10%???????

Welcome to Amerika, comrade.

The bondholders have no choice but to force GM’s hand. Bankruptcy would be much more equitable. Clearly robbery such as this is but one of the many reasons we can’t allow our benevolent leaders to come to our rescue.


42 posted on 04/28/2009 11:28:39 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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They need to reject it, it’s a raw deal for them, a sweetheart deal for the UAW!


43 posted on 04/28/2009 11:30:37 AM PDT by dawn53
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File for bankruptcy or die gm... it matters not... I am through with you after a lifetime of buying your offerings. Never again!

LLS

46 posted on 04/28/2009 11:36:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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The UAW may do well in the final looting, but GM is a corpse going forward. The government is incapable of producing a product that anyone wants, and the UAW has bled it’s host into a coma from which it will not return.


49 posted on 04/28/2009 11:47:07 AM PDT by throwback
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