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1 posted on 04/28/2009 9:45:38 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

If you live in California, you need to start planning how you can leave. If an Earthquake doesn’t get you, your elected officials and the environmentalists will.


2 posted on 04/28/2009 9:48:46 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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Loosening Proposition 13 in some fashion would provide more money for local services and schools, ease the burden on the state and thus reduce its chronic budget deficits.

Nawww...it would just swing it the other way.

Here’s a thought: QUIT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY.


3 posted on 04/28/2009 9:52:22 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero's political stylings since 1-20-09!)
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To: SmithL

Soon there will be no businesses left in Kal-ee-for-nee-a.


8 posted on 04/28/2009 10:06:01 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: SmithL

English-to-English translation service:

Paragraph 1: Tax-and-spend vote-buying politicians have appointed a commission to catch the javelins when taxes are raised. ‘Debate’ is our code word for one-sided media support of tax-and-spend policies and an increase in property taxes since nobody in their right mind wants property taxes raised.

Paragraph 2: Proposition 13 was landmark because nothing like it has happened since (fortunately). ‘Limit’ is a pretty definitive term but we choose to use the term ‘tight limit’ because we prefer ‘loose limits’ that allow the numbers to be fiddled with. We also mention schools because that’s a heartstring-tugger. State government should be concerned with windmill-building and choosing the official state salamander; mundane topics such as education are, well, mundane. And expensive.

Paragraph 3: ‘Loosening’ means overturning. You can’t get a little bit pregnant. We’ll mention schools again in case you missed it in the previous paragraph and we’ll also mention ‘local services.’ Most people probably think of police, fire and sanitation but trust us there are plenty more patronage jobs out there to buy votes with. This law has been around for three decades dammit. It’s popular with voters who are homeowners - can you believe their gall?

Paragraph 4: Here’s where we start the soft sell. Residential property won’t be touched (because residents vote!). Business property? Another story! Businesses can’t vote! Businesses are greedy! They might even show a profit in some quarters or years! We actually printed the word ‘liberals!’ See? We’re non-partisan! Of course we still will substitute ‘revenue’ for ‘taxes’ whenever possible. We’ll also use positive terms such as boost, invigorate and stimulate even though you’re more likely to read those words in a Craigslist personal ad. Do you like that ‘many billions of dollars’ line? We did too. Pie-in-the-sky unverifiable estimates are our specialty when it comes to government largesse.


9 posted on 04/28/2009 10:08:45 AM PDT by relictele
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To: SmithL

I’ve been saying it for at least two years here on FR: They’ll overturn Prop 13 within the next ten years. Captive homeowners are the ones least able to cut their losses when they leave.


11 posted on 04/28/2009 10:15:07 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Dan never loses an opportunity to try wound or kill Prop 13.

I will be so glad when the Bee’ close their doors and dangerous people like Dan don’t have a forum anymore.


14 posted on 04/28/2009 10:26:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0B0Z0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: SmithL; SierraWasp; tubebender; steelie; NormsRevenge; Calpernia; Jim Robinson

A quick Yahoo search on Dan Walters Articles on Prop 13 show over 100,000 hits.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-hptb5&p=Dan%20Walters%20Articles%20on%20Prop%2013&type=

Walters has been a one man hit squad against prop 13 for decades.


15 posted on 04/28/2009 10:31:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0B0Z0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: SmithL
There's almost no chance that Proposition 13's limits on residential property taxes would be touched, but liberals who want to see the state's budget crisis resolved with more revenues, rather than less spending, are intrigued by the notion of reducing its benefits to business property, thus boosting revenues by many billions of dollars.

Otherwise known as shafting renters and small business employers chasing more jobs out of California and creating more claims for services on the State budget.

Great idea!

17 posted on 04/28/2009 10:33:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (It's time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: SmithL

California should file chapter 9 bankruptcy.


18 posted on 04/28/2009 10:44:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmithL

California’s liberal fascists are determined to drive out any remaining believers in free enterprise, private property, Constitutional freedoms, border control, traditional marriage, or limited government power. The state should be partitioned into free (interior) and communist (coastal) but that is not likely to happen. States like Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Idaho are increasingly contaminated with California liberals as well, and those states should seriously consider border controls to keep them out.


21 posted on 04/28/2009 10:58:42 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Liberalism is a hate crime that can no longer be tolerated.)
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To: SmithL; Jim Robinson; John Robinson; Calpernia; SierraWasp; tubebender; DoughtyOne; NormsRevenge; ..

A joke for those of us living in the liberal held state of California:

The Best Surgeon In California!:

Three Californian surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed.

One of them said, “I’m the best surgeon in California . In my favorite case, a concert pianist lost several fingers in an accident, I reattached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England .”

The second surgeon said, “That’s nothing. A young man lost an arm and both legs in an accident, I reattached them and two years later he won a gold medal in track and field events at the Olympics.”

The third surgeon said, “You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a woman was high on cocaine and marijuana and she rode a horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the woman’s hair and the horse’s ass. I was able to put them together and now she’s Speaker of the House.”


40 posted on 04/28/2009 1:54:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foriegn/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: SmithL
Loosening Proposition 13 in some fashion would provide more money for local services and schools, ease the burden on the state and thus reduce its chronic budget deficits. Three decades after its passage, however, it remains very popular with voters, the vast majority of whom are homeowners.

Only a clinical moron could make that statement with a straight face.

You think that taxpayers feel "bad" about not throwing more money at the politicians, the spenders and the welfare pets?

Bring it on.
Let's have a replay of Prop 13.
It would pass by an even bigger margin than last time!

43 posted on 04/28/2009 6:05:21 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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