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Swine flu worse in Mexico than US, but why?
AP (via MyWay) ^ | Apr 25, 2009 | MIKE STOBBE

Posted on 04/25/2009 6:30:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

ATLANTA (AP) - Why has the swine flu engulfing Mexico been deadly there, but not in the United States?

Nearly all those who died in Mexico were between 20 and 40 years old, and they died of severe pneumonia from a flu-like illness believed caused by a unique swine flu virus.

The 11 U.S. victims cover a wider age range, as young as 9 to over 50. All those people either recovered or are recovering; at least two were hospitalized.

"So far we have been quite fortunate," said Dr. Anne Schuchat of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Saturday, just hours before three new U.S. cases were confirmed.

Health experts worry about a flu that kills healthy young adults - a hallmark of the worst global flu epidemics. Deaths from most ordinary flu outbreaks occur among the very young and very old.

Why the two countries are experiencing the illness differently is puzzling public health experts, who say they frankly just don't know.

It may be that the bug only seems more deadly in Mexico.

And while experts believe Mexico is the epicenter of the outbreak, they're not certain if new cases are occurring or if the situation is getting worse. They also don't know if another virus might be circulating in Mexico that could be compounding the problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flu; healthcare; influenza; mexico; swineflu; tm
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1 posted on 04/25/2009 6:30:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Swine flu worse in Mexico than US, but why?

No U.S. Emergency Rooms to parasitize.

2 posted on 04/25/2009 6:33:25 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Chains you can believe in.)
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Could be an ironic situation that the Mexicans are acclimated to more bugs e.g. their immunity to Montezuma’s Revenge. Some viruses will provoke cytokine storms in particularly robust immune systems.


3 posted on 04/25/2009 6:33:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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Gee, maybe we have first-world health care, and they have third-world health care?

Nah, too obvious...

4 posted on 04/25/2009 6:33:37 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: FormerACLUmember

Like what would you get if you did? Only known remedy is Tamiflu, and both Mexico and US have scads of it.


5 posted on 04/25/2009 6:34:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
ccess to medical care has been an issue in Asia, where a rare bird flu - which does not spread easily from person-to-person - has killed more than 200 over the last several years. Maybe Mexican patients have also had trouble getting medical care or antiviral drugs, some have speculated - even though the government provides health care.

Well that is shocking.

6 posted on 04/25/2009 6:34:53 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

We’ve had seven confirmed cases in US and supposedly a 7% mortality rate in Mexico.

Statistically, you’d need 14 cases here before you’d expect a death.

That’s not exactly how the math works, but the point is we still have too small a sample to decide the US version is less lethal.


7 posted on 04/25/2009 6:35:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Why would anyone ask such an incredibly stupid question? Only if the reverse were true would it be a question worth pondering.


8 posted on 04/25/2009 6:36:05 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("Envy is always referred to by its political alias, 'social justice.' " - T. Sowell)
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To: dirtboy

Along with other things like basic hygiene and living conditions, overall health of the populace, etc


9 posted on 04/25/2009 6:36:26 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008611978_mexicotape10.html


11 posted on 04/25/2009 6:38:05 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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Just guessing here but if they died of severe pneumonia, isn’t that a reflection of the sanitary conditions inside hospitals? I once read that pneumonia is the biggest killer in hospitals where the infection that killed patients wasn’t from the original diagnosis and the reason was lack of proper sanitation.

Warning: I’m not a doctor or even associated with medicine in any way but I did stay at a HIE last night.


12 posted on 04/25/2009 6:38:52 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Be coz we’re gooder!


13 posted on 04/25/2009 6:39:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Some viruses will provoke cytokine storms in particularly robust immune systems.

Isn't that a suspected reason for the death rate of the 1918 Spanish flu?

14 posted on 04/25/2009 6:40:08 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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Mexico has socialized medicine?


15 posted on 04/25/2009 6:40:29 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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Isn't that a suspected reason for the death rate of the 1918 Spanish flu?

Yes. Much like this outbreak, the 1918 flu killed mostly the 20-45 age group.

16 posted on 04/25/2009 6:42:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Could be an ironic situation that the Mexicans are acclimated to more bugs e.g. their immunity to Montezuma’s Revenge.

The experts are saying America's exposure to the H1 portion of the bug means the population has antibodies that may fight this adaptation better.

17 posted on 04/25/2009 6:43:01 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Sherman Logan
I've read that the BBC is reporting there are actually thousands of cases of this flu and about 200 deaths. That puts it into the statistical norm for a bad flu strain.

Not enough cases in the US yet to have statistics support any deaths by percentage of ill.

I'm believing very little from anyone about now. We do like to color up a story don't we?

Always have at least 21 days of food, pet food, water, medicines, ammo, etc. ready for storms, pandemics, etc.

18 posted on 04/25/2009 6:46:48 PM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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Because the medical system in Mexico, well.... sucks.


19 posted on 04/25/2009 6:47:02 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: All; NavVet; Mr. Mojo
"Mexico has socialized medicine?"

Why would people leave a country with "free" healthcare for the only major industrialized country without it? I thought utopia consisted of socialized medicine, high tax rates for the "wealthy", welfare payments for the shiftless and government control of everything...

20 posted on 04/25/2009 6:48:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." Machiavelli)
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