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Obama Supporters Move to use Massachusetts as test case for gun confiscation
The Nav Log ^ | 4/25/09

Posted on 04/25/2009 4:35:52 PM PDT by pabianice

Massachusetts H 2202

o Bans ownership of any "assault weapons"

o Bans ownership of any semi-auto rifles or pistols as "machine guns;" possession/ownership of such to be punished by a minimum three years in prison

o Outlaws possession or ownership of any firearms that cannot "microstamp" cartridges

Requires:

o A complete list of every handgun owned must be supplied to your licensing authority;

o $250,000 insurance policy on every handgun to cover any harm or damage that might arise from the use;

o Places a member of Stop Handgun Violence on the state's Gun Control Advisory Board;

o Requires Owners of guns to make lost or stolen reports or face heavy fines;

o Changes the mandatory training requirements for handguns to be a minimum of 20 hours long to include four hours of "practical shooting";

o Limits purchases to One handgun a month;

o Requires solenoid use-limitation devices, voice recognition devices, and automated fingerprint systems for handguns;

o Increases the penalties for multiple unlawful sales without making a dent in illegal gun trafficking.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhobanglist; devalpatrick; ma2009
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To: Thunder90

It took just the AWB to bring in Bush. Does Obama want to see once more how a Rat government can become a GOP government overnight? Bill Clinton could tell him.


21 posted on 04/25/2009 5:19:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: NTHockey

I think FReepers should remember this is a public board, and the owners would be required to reveal user information to the authorities in an investigation. This also happens to be a very popular board with a well known reputation for being very conservative. In other words, this is one of the first places Janet Napolitano’s minions would look.


22 posted on 04/25/2009 5:22:25 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: pabianice

Dispite what most Democrats say during the campaign you can always count on this: “If their mouth is moving, they are lying!”

I would be remiss if I did not give credit the few conservative Democrats who are not intoxicate by money and power bur still care about this country.


23 posted on 04/25/2009 5:24:09 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: CitizenUSA

Let her come we will sit down and discuss things before she is escorted off the property. Is that not the O way “Talk”.


24 posted on 04/25/2009 5:28:59 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: CitizenUSA
I just don’t understand how a (GOD GIVEN) constitutionally protected freedom can be licensed
25 posted on 04/25/2009 5:33:30 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Confiscation of firearms must take place if the “messiah” and his D’rats are going to succeed with their agenda. Without firearm confiscation, the Obama regime will fail.
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Exactly right. They can’t complete the subjugation without it—and they know it. They are going to push this for the next 4 years every chance they get, they have no choice.


26 posted on 04/25/2009 5:37:50 PM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: CitizenUSA
I just don’t understand how a constitutionally protected freedom can be licensed. Seriously.

Ever heard of campaign finance reform.

27 posted on 04/25/2009 5:40:43 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: CurlyDave

Geez, I never thought I’d be happy to live in the Ninth Circus.


28 posted on 04/25/2009 5:42:11 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It took just the AWB to bring in Bush.

If that's the case, why did Clintoon win in '96? The AWB is widely credited on both sides of the aisle with giving Congress to the GOP in '94 for the first time in four decades, probably with some merit, but I don't think it caused the election of Bush. Gore was just too much of a wingnut, and Bush was not quite as bad.

29 posted on 04/25/2009 5:45:16 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: xmission
Don’t they realize.... This will mean war.

Yes they realize it but they have the mistaken belief that the patriotic members of the US Armed Forces will be on their side.

30 posted on 04/25/2009 5:50:33 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: CitizenUSA

Amendments:

1. Free speech - campaign finance reform

2 Gun rights - gun control

3. I actually wouldn’t mind having soldiers at the house, though to be fair they’ve never made me.

4. Search and Seizure - Income tax returns, IRS and Swiss bank accounts

5. Compensation - they aren’t planning to pay you for confiscated guns

That’s only the first five.


31 posted on 04/25/2009 5:52:18 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Jeff Gordon

Not only do they think the military is on their side but...

“Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and I believe continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards,” said Holder, nation’s first black attorney general


32 posted on 04/25/2009 5:53:48 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Jeff Gordon

I hope they’ll get to bring the goodies with them...


33 posted on 04/25/2009 5:58:08 PM PDT by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: pabianice

Comments?

Read the freakin’ Constitution!


34 posted on 04/25/2009 5:58:50 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: CitizenUSA

GOOD. STUFF IT, NAPOLITANO.


35 posted on 04/25/2009 5:59:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: pabianice; All

Imagine these same rules applying to voting:

Requires:

o A complete list of every vote ever cast must be supplied to your licensing authority;


36 posted on 04/25/2009 6:02:15 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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I am very seriously curious about just how many gun owning Americans will actually take a do or die stand and shoot any thug who attempts to take their guns away?

I am very deadly serious about this. I will willingly shoot to kill, and thus be willing to die fighting for my freedom, anybody who tries to take my guns. What percentage of the gun owners in this country are actually willing to kill and die when that day comes? Oh, and if this puts me on a list, then so be it!


37 posted on 04/25/2009 6:02:31 PM PDT by mtdrake
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To: pabianice
If you read the link - the list you've posted above combines the language from 2 bills - H2202 and H.2287.

H.2202, Automatic Weapons Bill or General Gun Ban?

Recently GOAL obtained a copy of H.2202 "An Act to Close the Automatic Weapon Loophole" bill. The legislation was filed by Representative Antonio Cabral of New Bedford. The bill appears to have no cosponsors. At first glance one would logically come to the conclusion that the bill has something to do with machineguns. Unfortunately, you would be wrong. It is actually a potential ban on everything other than automatic firearms.

The very first section of the bill changes the Commonwealth's definition of "Assault Weapon" by deleting the exemptions that exist for manual action guns. The proposed change also does away with an important exemption that GOAL had put into law in our 2004 reform bill (Chapter 150 of the Acts of 2004).

The exemption was Appendix A of 18 U.S.C. 922, part of the federal assault weapons ban laws that were set to expire in 2004. The Appendix contained a list of hundreds of guns that could legally never be considered as "assault weapons".

Some examples of the guns on the list are Ruger Red Label Shotgun, Perrazi Sporting Classic O/U Shotgun, Browning Citori O/U Shotgun, Remington 870 Youth Model, Ancshutz Match Rifle, Thompson/Center Contender Carbine. Knowing the federal ban was set to expire and the Massachusetts ban was not, GOAL successfully worked to permanently attach Appendix A to the Massachusetts exemptions. H.2202 proposes to do away with that exemption.

The next two sections of the bill inserts language into the license to carry law (Chapter 140, Section 131) essentially banning the purchase, renting, leasing, borrowing, possession and carrying of assault weapons.

Section four of the bill is more than a little confusing as it deals with club licenses. The language removes an exemption in the law that currently allows the removal of large capacity weapons or large capacity feeding devices from the premises (club) for the purpose of "hunting in accordance with the provisions of chapter 131."

The bill then moves to change the minimum sentencing for possession firearm (handgun), rifle or shotgun form 2 ½ years to "not less than three years." The minimum sentencing for drug and violent crimes in conjunction with gun crimes is increased from three years to a minimum of five years. It also intends to do away with the ability to serve concurrent sentences for certain crimes.

The bill clearly has nothing to do with machineguns (automatic weapons), but rather is intended to ban certain semi-automatic guns (assault weapons). Perhaps even more sinister is that by proposing to remove the crucial exemptions in the legal definition of "assault weapon" it is intentionally opening the door to label most any gun an assault weapon and thus potentially banning anything. If this is not the intention, then why remove the exemptions?

H.2202 is currently within the Joint Committee on Public Safety and Homeland Security. We urge our members to contact the Committee members and ask them to oppose this blatant attempt to open the door for banning the possession of guns by lawful citizens.

H.2287 the Anti RKBA Buffet

H.2287 "An Act Relative to Firearms in the Commonwealth" is a re-file from the last legislative session. As stated in my title, it is a virtual buffet of anti RKBA legislation. Rather than taking up a lot of space with detailed explanations, I'll simply give a bullet point list of the proposals in the bill:

A complete list of every handgun owned must be supplied to your licensing authority;
· $250,000 insurance policy on every handgun to cover any harm or damage that might arise from the use;
· Place a member of Stop Handgun Violence on the state's Gun Control Advisory Board;
· Owners of guns to make lost or stolen reports or face heavy fines;
· Changing the mandatory training requirements for handguns to be a minimum of 20 hours long to include four hours of "practical shooting";
· One handgun a month;
· Solenoid use-limitation devices, voice recognition devices, automated fingerprint systems for handguns;
· Increasing the penalties for multiple unlawful sales.

38 posted on 04/25/2009 6:05:13 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: KLT

Oh....they “get it” allright. The commie DemRats get it perfectly. It’s you that doesn’t get it.....apparently.


39 posted on 04/25/2009 6:05:30 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: pabianice

The first one started in Massachusetts back in the mid 18th century, so I suppose it would be as good a place as any to begin the second one in the early 21st.


40 posted on 04/25/2009 6:09:16 PM PDT by Nik Naym (Everyone has a right to my opinion.)
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