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To: ASOC; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...
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“First, we killl all the Jews, then we start with the Mormons...”
In that, they were not unlike the Americans who seem to enjoy killing mormons....

What utter hogwash!

The quote “First, we killl all the Jews, then we start with the Mormons...” was uttered by a MORMON....One of Hübener's local church leaders, Otto Berndt, was sympathetic to Hübener, and was suspected of having assisted and encouraged the boy. Berndt was questioned and released with an ominous warning: "after Jews, Mormons will be next." From the link you posted

Your other statement is also double utter hogwash, "In that, they were not unlike the Americans who seem to enjoy killing mormons....

There are NO "Americans killing mormons", and there is history of mormons killing Americans at Mountain Meadows.

Some folks take the "poor persecuted mormons" theme 'way too far.

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I remind you of my earlier post, ""[The Mormon] policy of appeasing the Nazis worked well until the war broke out. Despite the classification of Mormonism as a sect 'dangerous to the state…' according to Gestapo reports, the Church was not summarily dissolved as many others were. The missionaries remained; the Church continued. Even during the war, Mormon life was disrupted more by bombing raids, supply shortages, and travel restrictions than by official harassment. By and large, the German Saints lived through the Thousand-Year Reich much like the rest of their countrymen."
- Alan F. Keele and Douglas F. Tobler, “The Fuhrer’s New Clothes: Helmuth Huebner and the Mormons in the Third Reich,” Sunstone, v. 5, no. 6, pp. 20-29

41 posted on 04/25/2009 1:02:31 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama....never saw a Bush molehill he couldn't make a mountain out of.......)
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To: greyfoxx39
The “I am so put upon”, “I am so persecuted”, “I am so hated” ldser chant is really getitng boooorrring!

Wait is that a way to avoid answering questions and concerns? Nah.

42 posted on 04/25/2009 1:15:31 PM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Excellent point. I had a friend who served an LDS mission to Germany shortly after WWII and told me that there was quite a bit of opposition because many Germans perceived the LDS as being “in league” with the Nazis.


43 posted on 04/25/2009 1:19:05 PM PDT by reaganaut (When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: greyfoxx39

You semed to have missed the bit before that (Huans Mill, for example) - so, please, go easy o the hogwash claims.

It is an established historical fact that US Military personnel (State Sponsered Milita) did, in fact, kill numerous mormans, livestock and so on. And from the period reports, relished the process.

When stationed in the West - I was struck that the history of the Intermountain West is insperable for the lds saga.

I enjoy studing these folks & their activities in the West from a historical or culture perpective. German history, I’m not so keen on.

You, OTOH, seemed to be consumed by an emotion (I noticed all the caps & bold print) that I cannot fathom.

Believe as you will, as will I - it is America after all.

I live in an area with little if any influence from any church - you may not be so lucky. perhaps that is the source of your ire..

THis non-conversation is over. Thanks for the reply tho.


45 posted on 04/25/2009 1:24:47 PM PDT by ASOC
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To: greyfoxx39
Never underestmate the power of good PR...


51 posted on 04/25/2009 2:31:12 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: greyfoxx39

“The arrest of an undocumented immigrant returning last week from his LDS mission has sparked discussion at the highest levels of the church about how to not get caught breaking immigration laws in the future.”

Fixed it...


53 posted on 04/25/2009 2:37:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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54 posted on 04/25/2009 2:41:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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