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To: Joiseydude

I wish someone could explain to me why a straight person would give a damn about gays getting married or gays in the military, etc. And don’t say it’s just Hollywood. I know lots of people who are for gay marriage. A few are relatives but nobody can explain why they care. And I know what one reply will be.


9 posted on 04/22/2009 9:31:43 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( I hate all politicians. Including republicans.)
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To: Terry Mross

“I wish someone could explain to me why a straight person would give a damn about gays getting married or gays in the military, etc. And don’t say it’s just Hollywood. I know lots of people who are for gay marriage. A few are relatives but nobody can explain why they care. And I know what one reply will be.”

1. Marriage has historically been between one man and one woman because the basic building block for society is stable families that raise the next generation, and
2. studies show that the best environment for raising children is for the child to be raised by a mother AND a father, and
3. if the State sanctions homosexual marriage then the State is dooming children to a life of being raised without a mother or without a father, and
4. if homosexual marriage is legalized, marriage will have to be legally accepted as the union of several men to one woman, one man to several women, several women to several women, several men to several men, etc.

Does that answer your question?


38 posted on 04/22/2009 10:02:19 AM PDT by Reddy
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To: Terry Mross

That’s sorta off-topic. At least as I see it, the issue is more narrow: Is it fair to level personal, hateful abuse (”dumb b****” and “c***”) against someone who gives the polite, respectful answer she gave? (Also, was it fair to single out this one contestant, known to “Perez” to be from a private Christian collage, that question but not ask it of other contestants?)


45 posted on 04/22/2009 10:13:22 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Terry Mross

I don’t care if gays get married - any of them can so long as it is one man and one woman! Why are you so close minded to assume that they can’t get married?

Just for the record, there are already gays in the military - but they are smart enough to keep their sex lives in their bedroom - which is where it should be! I (and most people) don’t care what anyone does to whom in the privacy of their own bedroom. So, why is it so important for gays to make me “accept” - not tolerate - but ACCEPT their lifestyle as normal? According to just about every government statistic less than 3% of the population are gay, yet we need to change 92+% of America for these guys?

The more important question is why do gays feel they need to put their sex life front and center of their existence? We don’t say we are an African-American athlete, we don’t say that is a fat lawyer, people don’t introduce people in Hollywood as that anorexic actress, so WHY must we identify people as “GAY?”


46 posted on 04/22/2009 10:13:29 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: Terry Mross

I wish someone could explain to me why a straight person would give a damn about gays getting married or gays in the military.””

Several reasons: 1. legitimizing perverts as normal doesn’t make the mental illness go away. 2. Benefits for partners —course two normal best friends can’t get the same benefits unless they perform perverted sex acts like rimming, and felching—consumption of fecal material often causes illness. Why not? 3. Male homosexuals are the #1 vector of infectious diseases costing public health and healthcare 100s of billions—smokers are not the same because they are not vectors of disease. 4. Male homosexuals that are immune depressed are also the #1 source of antibiotic resistant bacteria putting the rest of the normal public at risk. 5. Marry your cousin, son, brother or dog—I don’t care as long as I don’t have to pay for it in any form.


47 posted on 04/22/2009 10:16:47 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Terry Mross
I wish someone could explain to me why a straight person would give a damn about gays getting married...

Gay marriage compared to a a bisexual marriage is like comparing counterfeit money to genuine. It debases the value of the institution by rewriting it basic meaning. If accepted where is the objection to polygamy, or marrying ones pet goldfish or even oneself (for the truly narcissistic) for that matter.

...or gays in the military...

Military units are forged from the first day of training to think and react as a unified group. They share a common experience in everything from sleeping and eating to personal sanitation. Military Special Forces units, even though made up of tremendously resourceful individuals, are inculcated with a unity of trust in their fellow unit members to the degree that they would give their lives to save that of a team member. The military has no use for personal privacy nor "lone wolves".

Gays currently serve and do so under the conditions described by keeping their orientation to themselves. Under those conditions they can and do serve with honor. Putting your sexual orientation out in front by declaring to the rest of your unit that you are gay will destroy unit cohesiveness and put a severe strain on the necessary trust between unit members.

Regards,
GtG

55 posted on 04/22/2009 10:35:57 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Terry Mross
I'm most happy to help elucidate the reason that "straight" people "care" about redefining marriage as other than it has been defined for more than 5 thousand years.

Wondering why so-called "gay" couples bother to wish to be included in something that they basically denounce, disdain and otherwise care little, is the real question.

Why do homosexuals bother to care about an institution that has nothing whatsoever to do with them?

What do they possibly hope to obtain by their insistence on redefining their arrangements, that they are unable to obtain through various legal arrangements such as wills, real estate transactions?

Other than desiring - no demanding that straight people acknowledge their sexual unions and lifestyles, they have little to gain other than wishing to see their names printed in the local "news" rags (that are shrinking day by day)and/or photos in the "Style Section" with Engagements/Marriages photos.

Liberals continue to rant that "conservatives (presumably straight people) want to dictate what they do in their bedrooms, when in fact it is really the other way around.

It is really liberals and certainly homosexuals demanding that thousands of years of a recognized family unit (marriage) be dismantled at their insistence, that they be granted "special rights" that have existed at no time and nowhere else on the planet.

It's not so much that heterosexuals care what homosexuals do or do not do, just that why are homosexuals demanding heterosexuals alter the history of every nation to please the whims of 1%-3% of the American population.

60 posted on 04/22/2009 12:48:43 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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