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Did 'enhanced interrogation' save Los Angeles?
American Thinker ^ | April 21, 2009 | William Tate

Posted on 04/21/2009 11:32:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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The Democrats care more about terrorist's rights than our lives.
1 posted on 04/21/2009 11:32:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mark was talking about this tonight as well.

If waterboarding saved the lives of the people of Los Angeles, then the damn communists and other registered democrats who control our government better publicly acknowledge that fact.

2 posted on 04/21/2009 11:36:48 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I second that assessment
3 posted on 04/21/2009 11:37:48 PM PDT by Barney59 ("Amen")
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At this point does it even matter if terrorists attack LA?

I mean, what’s there? Illegal aliens and rabid Democrats who have made that city and state into a 3rd world economy.

It really strikes me as odd that the overwhelming majority of high priority targets to terrorists are home to their most ardent defenders.

Useful idiots indeed.


4 posted on 04/21/2009 11:39:24 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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5 posted on 04/21/2009 11:45:46 PM PDT by South40 (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The original article was published in the Washington Post today and the comments were shocking. So very many side with Obama and think the Bush administration was evil and should be prosecuted. It’s absolutely insane.


6 posted on 04/21/2009 11:52:51 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
At this point does it even matter if terrorists attack LA?

Yes. Patricia Heaton and Bo Derek spend time there.

7 posted on 04/21/2009 11:53:53 PM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

What’s in L.A.? Me, my wife and 4 children.

Thank you President George W. Bush for your commitment to keeping us safe. We owe you our lives.

Now if you find a terrorist with plans to take out San Francisco, hand him a cell phone and leave the room.


8 posted on 04/21/2009 11:56:39 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: South40

Damn....LMAO...great pic...


9 posted on 04/22/2009 12:02:43 AM PDT by Crim
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
... the overwhelming majority of high priority targets to terrorists are home to their most ardent defenders.

Yes, it's ironic that New York, San Francisco, L.A., Chicago, D.C., and other major urban areas are so overloaded with liberals (take a look at the red-blue maps county by county) that the destruction of just one could change the outcome of a presidential election, if such elections were honest, which they're not -- vote fraud is rampant, but even there, the vote fraud is in metropolitan areas. Democrats have to cheat to win -- ACORN anyone? -- because in an honest election, they would lose because most Americans reject them.

NONETHELESS ... PAD ... do you know So Cal, or L.A., at all? Have you ever lived or worked there? Are you an ex-LAer who has rejected the place?

I was born and raised in rural agricultural small town environments and didn't move to the city until I was in my 30s. City people are ... well, city folks -- in many ways a pain, control-freaks, so out of touch with nature that they think dogs "are people too" and chicken farms are "cruel." I grew up in a place and time where, with some justification! -- bashing L.A. was (as it still is) the most popular indoor sport. It's easy to do, especially when one knows little or nothing about what is being bashed except that it's a cheap way of feeling superior and smarter.

I was humbled big-time when I ended up moving to So Cal and getting to know her cities and her people and her spirit. Born-and-bred city folks are indeed way out of touch with realities such as food and fiber production, live-and-let-live, and many things that make it so even if they move to a small farm town, they never escape the city, but instead bring all their city problems with them. It's the nature of the beast.

But at the same time, there is enormous resourcefulness, innovation, a certain kind of wisdom and savvy, vast amounts of love and kindness unexpected, and tough gumption in a whole helluva lot of the folks who live in L.A. that rural folks would do well to remember. It is a very humbling thing.

You'd be pretty surprised at how resourceful, generous, and self-sufficient (to the degree that it's possible in a compact region of about 12 million souls) that a vast number of people in So. Cal (what most of the world views as simply "L.A.") are. The Northridge earthquake knocked everything flat on its ass and the national media had a field day, presenting a picture to the rest of the country and the world of a city and people paralyzed. In reality -- and this was the first of many times THIS arrogant city-hating rural smarter-than-city-folks girl was humbled and impressed -- L.A.'s real people were back up and running and doing business in two days.

Never underestimate the resourcefulness of So Californians. And don't assume that just because it's a family of Spanish-speaking Mexicans that they're your "enemies" or third-worlders. A lot of those folks are the first to stand and put their hands over their hearts during the national anthem at sporting events -- I've seen it.

Be critical of stereotypes; while they're sometimes true or partly true, a lot of times they're flat mistaken. L.A. is one of this country's great resources, despite outsiders' delight in trashing the place.

10 posted on 04/22/2009 12:28:28 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

It’s part of America, so yes. It matters.

Good grief.


11 posted on 04/22/2009 12:38:26 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Life is but a big granola bar.)
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To: TruthHound
See my post #10. :^)

As for San Franicisco ... I have had many good times up in that beautiful city ... but I'd be tempted do do what you advise with the cell phone!!! In its historical context, San Francisco is the most East Coast, Boston-New-York city in California. Since the early 1800s and through today, "sophisticates" from the Eastern Seaboard have considered L.A. beneath their notice, a cultural wasteland, and that San Francisco was/is the only half-way civlized or cultured city in California. That's why East Coast elites like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer (who are not Californians) moved there after being born, raised, and educated in the East.

12 posted on 04/22/2009 12:40:16 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny

That’s the best sober defense of LA I’ve ever read. Thanks!


13 posted on 04/22/2009 12:48:33 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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That’s the best sober defense of LA I’ve ever read. Thanks!

*hic* Don' menshun it! *erp* ;^)

14 posted on 04/22/2009 12:58:59 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny
The effect would have been devastating.
L.A.'s real people were back up and running and doing business in two days.
Maybe terrorism wouldn't affect us as much as reporters want say it does.
15 posted on 04/22/2009 1:16:35 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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Even Obama's hand-picked CIA Director, has admitted that he might consent to enhanced interrogation techniques under a "ticking time bomb" scenario. And that is exactly the scenario in which the techniques were used during the Bush administration.

Panetta might be a socialist rat, but he's an American. Obama is a Kenyan/Indonesian/Muslim who hates us. So glad the idiots elected him.

16 posted on 04/22/2009 1:53:41 AM PDT by Defiant (One Big-Ass Mistake, America!!)
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The Democrats care more about terrorist's rights than our lives.

Welcome to the Seventies, fellas. Make yourselves at home in the Hotel California. Such a lovely place ...... you can never leave, though, not until 2010 at the earliest.

17 posted on 04/22/2009 1:58:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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Via GP:

Waterboarding 9-11 Planner Prevented Massive LA Terror Attack (Updated)




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Waterboarding Saves Lives.
The CIA confirmed that waterboarding 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed led to information that prevented a similar attack on Los Angeles.
CNS News reported:




The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.


Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”


According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.”
Radical Far Left President Obama wants to prosecute Bush officials who wrote the interrogation memos that approved of waterboarding.



UPDATE: The AP spins these facts today in an article that asks-- Unresolved debate in DOJ memos: Does torture work?
But even the AP had to admit that the "torture" worked:



Intelligence from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah, two detainees who were waterboarded, led to the discovery of a terrorist cell, the capture of other suspected terrorists and an understanding of the terrorist network, the documents say.






18 posted on 04/22/2009 2:01:37 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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So very many side with Obama and think the Bush administration was evil and should be prosecuted. It’s absolutely insane.

Hey, there were no additional terrorist attacks, so there must not have been any plans by the terrorists to do so.

Actually, the word "insane" doesn't even begin to cover it.

Mark

19 posted on 04/22/2009 2:04:53 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
At this point does it even matter if terrorists attack LA?

Nice. Thanks.

20 posted on 04/22/2009 2:12:01 AM PDT by Yaelle
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