Posted on 04/21/2009 10:32:08 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
President Obama left open the door Tuesday for charges to be brought against Bush administration lawyers who justified harsh interrogation techniques, though he continued to argue that CIA agents who used those tactics should not be prosecuted.
The president showed wiggle room on the issue as he faces calls from Democratic lawmakers and organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union to support such charges. Asked about the possibility of prosecution related to the interrogation program, the president deferred to Attorney General Eric Holder.
"With respect to those who formulate those legal decisions, I would say that that is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws," Obama said. "And I don't want to prejudge that. ... There are a host of very complicated issues involved there."
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True. If they beg for it long enough, they are going to get exactly the response they deserve.
It would be a lose, lose... but this theft of a Nation has got to stop.
Remember: Do something good for America and you’re an enemy of the piss ant of the United States for life.
Yep. A Great Big, Fat Distraction to keep us from noticing what Zero and his pals are really, actually doing policy-wise (i.e., gutting the Constitution at every turn and doing everything in their power to break the back of the American middle class). Plus it's a nice way to further divide Americans and increase the general "noise level" of society.
The same reasoning that yields the insight, "Never let a good crisis go to waste," also justifies the manufacture of "artificial crises" whenever they are politically useful.
You'll recall that Zero ran on the promise of bringing a divided nation "together." After a while, one begins to realize that whatever it is that Zero says, its opposite is the actual truth about his intent. He is not a "uniter"; he is a divider: His political philosophy, methods, and tactics depend on agitating states of "us" vs. "them." In other words, on the principle of "divide and conquer."
I want it.
There is no way that Zer0 or the demoRAT socialists & media shills will ever go peacefully. They will need to be dragged kicking & screaming out.
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Let the show trials begin...
The President, Congress, most of the various Medias, Academia, Hollywood, the democrats, and much of the republican party are Socialists or Dupes(drones)..
They will not go away easily and without force.. violent force.. Marching protesters might have worked 20 years ago.. but not now.. And I hope I'm wrong but it appears Fox News(O'Really,Hannity,Beck) is just relieveing seething pressure.. from the unwashed masses.. so THAT it does NOT EXPLODE...
The malafactors have thought this "Coup" out quite deeply..
If the Sheeple don't STAMPEDE(get violent) nothing will really happen..
“... As Thomas Jefferson said, “Great innovations should not be forced on slender majorities.”...”
And this is what Obama and the radical left is doing with
this administration, we see it happening, and refuse to
accept it.
This just proves that when Obama released those memos it was nothing more than a political move to damage the Bush administration, nothing more!
To hell with whether it damages the country!
It sounds like Rahm Emanuel is running the country instead of “KING OBAMA”!
So what happened to all the “...it does no good to revisit the crimes of the past; we must move forward,” stuff he was spouting on his Apology and Appeasement Tour.
At bottom, I think what we "refuse to accept" is the deliberate, fully conscious gutting of the Constitution — the foundation of our rule of law, and the means whereby the sovereign people delegated authority to the federal government to carry out a very limited set of responsibilities on our behalf. Nowadays, however, 90 percent of what the federal government is doing is being done without any constitutional warrant or authority whatsoever. And so the question becomes: Which is the "nullity" — the federal government as presently constituted, or the Constitution itself?
My own view is that the president is clearly acting in violation of his Oath of Office — to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and, by implication, the People of the United States. He is, therefore, acting wholly without constitutional authority and thereby is actively violating the will of the people so eloquently expressed in the Preamble of that document.
The Framers had a word for a president (or congressman or senator or any other public official) who would do such a thing: usurper.
In short, this is an unconstitutional president who is clearly eligible for impeachment on the basis of a litany of specific unconstitutional acts.
Not that Congress can be expected to act in this regard. For Congress is presently just as unconstitutional as the president, in the degree to which it acts without clear constitutional authority. Which is most of the time nowadays. There are very few, if any, Congress critturs who have not themselves willfully and knowingly breached their own oaths of office.
What would the Framers say about a situation like this? They would likely say that if the federal government is acting outside the scope of its constitutionally delegated powers, it is usurping the God-given rights of the People. It is acting as a tyrant. To the extent that it ignores the Constitution — which is the foundation, not only of our rule of law but also of the very framework of our government, and the only basis of the legitimate authority of our public officials — then we are technically in a state of anarchy — of "no government." That being the case, any and all unconstitutional edicts and regulations are "nullities" having no force of law; they simply are not binding on citizens.
The Framers would have concluded that, under such circumstances, only the sovereign People themselves can restore a just public order. We'd once again be fully justified in saying, "...when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security...." [emphasis added]
Well, that pretty much looks like our present situation to me. The big, so far unanswered question is: What will the People do about it?
Then there is yet another nagging question: Do the People feel they have any responsibility in this regard? How that question is answered likely will determine whether we Americans and our posterity are to live as free men or as slaves.
True.. The people have the government they want and deserve NOW...
It takes only a few to revolt.. as it did the first time..
It's a weird situation, dear brother in Christ. Probably no more than 10 percent of the population (and quite possibly much less) is devoted to the destruction of our system of liberty under law, with equal justice for all — such destruction being the greatest hope of progressivists of every stripe second only to the murder of God. Probably somewhere between 20–30 percent of the population would be adamantly opposed to such intents and purposes. The "in-between" 60 percent or so are totally clueless.
And yet that 10 percent has its fingers all over the buttons of state power, and is doing everything it can to marginalize and destroy the dissenting 20–30 percent, in part by manipulating the clueless 60 percent into believing that the 20–30 contingent are "right-wing radical fascists" who are trying to destroy the American polity. Thus the clueless stay clueless.
Still, remembering the situation of the first American Revolution, it was instigated, motivated, and ultimately carried to success because something like 25 percent of the colonial population had the temerity to insist that Americans, born free, refuse to live under tyranny.
I suspect these were better men than we typically have nowadays. An American future of liberty under law may very well depend on my being wrong about this.
Major parts of the fascists’ playbook that are already being realized:
We’re into the ‘create a diversionary demon’ (a sub-heading of several of the above) stage now, so beautifully described by betty (once again following Saul Alinsky's credo that, in order to seize increasing power, one must 'frame a villain'):
What makes this tactic even more surreal is the fact that they are programming us (well not actually us, but the tens of millions of useful idiots among whom we live) to believe that we must punish those of our leaders who have caused undue physical and emotional pain to our enemies.
And who are these enemies that we must protect (by handcuffing our own protectors)? They’re people whose principal membership includes those who relish gassing their own countrymen, and decapitating (sometimes via sawing), burning alive, and disemboweling those who don’t believe as they do.
And to think that, a mere decade ago, we thought the Wag the Dog diversion was ludicrous!
Betty’s simple, yet profound, question needs to ring in our hearts every minute of every day, until the answer becomes apparent:
I know how I believe that question will be answered. And I pray, daily and fervently, that I am wrong.
~ joanie
Most were I suspect.. but maybe 25% of them have some honor..
With the right gumption 25% might do it again..
Truly, few of the elected officials seem to take their responsibilities seriously - much less as sacred duties.
And the average voter is probably preoccupied with his personal life, complacent where he can be and ignorant of the ramifications of things happening in government now.
I don't know what the wake-up call will be, but there must be one before the voters will demand a roll back of these usurpations of power.
And who are these enemies that we must protect (by handcuffing our own protectors)? They’re people whose principal membership includes those who relish gassing their own countrymen, and decapitating (sometimes via sawing), burning alive, and disemboweling those who don’t believe as they do.
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