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To: marktwain

OK, I need you to illustrate how the 1st amendment only applies to the Federal government.

Am I to believe that the States can make laws requiring you to be a Muslim or a Buddhist? Am I to believe that the Stats can ban newspapers and radio stations? Am I to believe the city you live in can restrict your free speech?

Hogwash. I don’t buy it.

That states can enslave black people again if they wanted to? If you honestly believe that the US constitution has some provisions that do not apply to the states as such, then why didn’t the southern states tell the USA, “you have no power to free the slaves in our states since the 13th amendment of your constitution does not apply to us”

Sorry, but that is pure hogwash. All of the amendments apply to all state and local governments. The only provisions that don’t apply to the states are the ones that specifically cover only the federal government, such as the three branches of government and the ability to raise armies.

I am stumped how so many intelligent people believe that States are exempt from some general provisions of the Constitution, and especially the amendments, which clearly govern the states.


99 posted on 04/21/2009 7:07:15 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 55... 54... 53...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
“OK, I need you to illustrate how the 1st amendment only applies to the Federal government.”


It doesn't anymore. That is what the 14th Amendment was supposed to be about. After the Constituiton was ratified, before the Civil War, there were states that had official State religions.
101 posted on 04/21/2009 7:23:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Am I to believe that the States can make laws requiring you to be a Muslim or a Buddhist? Am I to believe that the Stats can ban newspapers and radio stations? Am I to believe the city you live in can restrict your free speech?

Show me a state constitution that allows such things. It's a question of jurisdiction. The states, at the time of the founding, already had constitutions and bills of rights. They weren't a concern. The concern was the newly created National gubmint, hence, a national bill of rights.

112 posted on 04/21/2009 8:40:38 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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That states can enslave black people again if they wanted to?

Why do you think they passed the 14th amendment in the first place? For that very reason. Which demonstrates clearly that before the 14th amendment, obviously, states COULD enslave people.

113 posted on 04/21/2009 8:41:39 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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