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Stocks slide as investors dump financials
Yahoo Finance ^ | April 20, 2009 | Tim Paradis

Posted on 04/20/2009 8:54:46 AM PDT by Scanian

NEW YORK (AP) -- Investors are having doubts about banks' profit reports and wondering whether their better-than-expected performance mask larger problems with bad debt.

Stocks fell sharply early Monday as investors sold financial stocks and locked in profits after a six-week rally. The major indexes slid more than 2.5 percent, including the Dow Jones industrial average, which fell 200 points.

Worries about the financial industry overshadowed Oracle Corp.'s announcement that it would acquire Sun Microsystems Inc. for $7.4 billion and a $6 billion bid by PepsiCo Inc. to buy its two biggest bottlers.

The news came at the start of the busiest week yet for companies reporting results from the first three months of the year. Investors are looking for signals that a rally from 12-year lows in early March can continue.

Wall Street has been emboldened by early signals that the economy could be stabilizing, but after a 24 percent surge in the Dow Jones industrial average some investors are asking whether the market has risen too quickly.

Joe Saluzzi, co-head of equity trading at Themis Trading LLC, said traders are now viewing bank earnings with more skepticism amid concerns that even the better-than-expected results are disguising problems. Income from trading and low-cost borrowing rates have boosted results but not erased more difficult problems with bad debt, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banks; debt; wallsteet
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A bear market rally slip-sliding away?
1 posted on 04/20/2009 8:54:46 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Per Cpl Hudson: We’re on an express elevator to hell! GOING DOWN!!!


2 posted on 04/20/2009 9:00:24 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Scanian

Hope. Change. Those are orders.

—The Messiah


3 posted on 04/20/2009 9:00:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: Kartographer

My worry is that that is exactly the way Zer0 wants it.


4 posted on 04/20/2009 9:01:53 AM PDT by Scanian (i)
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To: Scanian

But Obama still sees a glimmer of hope!!


5 posted on 04/20/2009 9:01:54 AM PDT by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: Scanian

Insolvent Banks showing profits... And they expected people to buy it? Try again.


6 posted on 04/20/2009 9:03:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Obadiah

In fortunately the glimmer he sees is the train coming down the tunnel he just lead the country into!


7 posted on 04/20/2009 9:04:06 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: HamiltonJay

As another FReeper wrote not long ago, it takes skill to make a profit borrowing money at 3% and lending it at 5%. Very little skill to borrow at 2% and lend at 5%.


8 posted on 04/20/2009 9:05:58 AM PDT by Scanian (i)
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To: HamiltonJay

If the banks are doing so great then they need to keep their damn toxic assets and return all the TARP money. Or are they showing fake profits by playing very bad accounting games that are many time worse than Enron accounting games? I will say yes to that question.


9 posted on 04/20/2009 9:07:39 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Kartographer
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10 posted on 04/20/2009 9:09:27 AM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: Scanian
I've had an unsettled feeling since seeing the Dow Jones pick up in the last couple of weeks, but I couldn't put my finger on it. Today I figured out why. Pay particular attention to the timeline provided to the right--then realize that our economy is probably more leveraged than it was in 1929.

Shalom.

11 posted on 04/20/2009 9:11:25 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Scanian

“My worry is that that is exactly the way Zer0 wants it.”

I’ve heard that the Chinese characters for “crisis” and “opportunity” are the same. There is some validity to this belief.

Unfortunately the “opportunity” that Obama sees will not be to our favor.


12 posted on 04/20/2009 9:12:22 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: jveritas; All

I’m with you.. If banks like BOA is doing good, they why need the TARP money in the first place.. Something stinks..


13 posted on 04/20/2009 9:18:06 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Now a member of the NRA)
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To: Scanian

The stock market has been very irrational as of late. WTF has changed in the last 30 days that warranted this blast off?


14 posted on 04/20/2009 9:19:46 AM PDT by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Bohhhhhhhhh. Smooth)
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To: KevinDavis

Wasn’t BOA forced to take the bribe, er, uh money?


15 posted on 04/20/2009 9:22:02 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: KevinDavis

The stuff on the books is still crap. The banks are failing the stress test and the Treasury is trying to hide it until after earnings come out.


16 posted on 04/20/2009 9:22:16 AM PDT by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Bohhhhhhhhh. Smooth)
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To: misterrob; All

Basically we are going to see the Fed Government take over our banks...


17 posted on 04/20/2009 9:23:24 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Now a member of the NRA)
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To: gathersnomoss; All

That is true..


18 posted on 04/20/2009 9:23:43 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Now a member of the NRA)
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To: jveritas

Some banks took the money as a lifeline whereas others were forced to take the money so no one else would look bad. (When Treausry Sec tells you that you take the money or the government is going to audit the hell out of you that is a defacto loaded gun being pointed at you).

The banks are doing well from getting cheap money and loaning it out at good spreads and from accounting rules. Foreward looking though people should be afraid.


19 posted on 04/20/2009 9:25:47 AM PDT by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Bohhhhhhhhh. Smooth)
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To: KevinDavis

The Feds could have put up a Trillion dollars and created new banks that could have been sold off to the public and the bad banks could have been allowed to fail. Ugly for certain but come on, how much has been flushed down the toilet already?


20 posted on 04/20/2009 9:27:47 AM PDT by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Bohhhhhhhhh. Smooth)
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