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Between the release of intelligence memos, his liberalism & incompetence as POTUS, B. Hussein O'Buffoon is gonna get a lot of Americans killed.
1 posted on 04/18/2009 10:36:48 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

I thought so.


2 posted on 04/18/2009 10:38:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Word gets out.


3 posted on 04/18/2009 10:40:30 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: kellynla
Between the release of intelligence memos, his liberalism & incompetence as POTUS, B. Hussein O'Buffoon is gonna get a lot of Americans killed.

I think it's only a matter of time.

6 posted on 04/18/2009 10:46:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kellynla
"the commander of the Bainbridge and the captain of the Navy SEAL team determined they had operational authority"

Like a lot of others here, I suspected that they risked their careers to do the right thing.

Just as "No good deed goes unpunished" by the Democrats; I doubt that Obama will let something like this happen again.

He can't risk alienating his far-left, anti-war, nut-bag base.

7 posted on 04/18/2009 10:48:23 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: kellynla
"accusing the president of employing restrictive rules of engagement"

Shades of Viet Nam.

And risking the lives of both the hostage and the SEALs.

But, you know, we're just a bunch of right-wing extremists.

8 posted on 04/18/2009 10:51:05 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: kellynla

That figures.


10 posted on 04/18/2009 10:53:24 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: kellynla

Does this mean that the skipper of the Bainbridge gets lauded in public, but privately finds his career upward mobility scuttled?

Any one else wonder where the SEAL team commander will be assigned next?


13 posted on 04/18/2009 11:01:25 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: kellynla

Received in email this evening from an unconfirmed source: Take it with a grain of salt.

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:02:51 -0 700
Subject: Interesting

Interesting...from a friend who should know.

Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:

1. BHO wouldn’t authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.

2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn’t do anything unless the hostage’s life was in “imminent” danger ..

3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction.

4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.

5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams.

6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies.

7. BHO immediately claims credit for his “daring and decisive” behavior. As usual with him, it’s BS.

So per our last email thread, I’m downgrading Oohbaby’s performance to D-. Only reason it’s not an F is that the hostage survived.

Read the following accurate account.

Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors — and none was taken.

The guidance from National Command Authority — the president of the United States, Barack Obama — had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.

The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates — and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be acceptable.

After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the on scene commander decided he’d had enough.

Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer — unnamed in all media reports to date — decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Phillips was safe.

There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the last week that culminated in
yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.

Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and [1] declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put paid to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.

Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort. What should have been a standoff lasting only hours — as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location — became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.


15 posted on 04/18/2009 11:08:46 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: kellynla

This is very close to the account I am hearing through the grapevine.

The military people involved are very unhappy with O’s interference.


16 posted on 04/18/2009 11:16:38 PM PDT by zipper ( If God is your copilot, you're in the wrong seat!)
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To: kellynla

don’t forget they were fighting the pirates for a whole week before the caption was captured. What happened to the basic rules of the sea? can’t the navy monitor emergency channels in the area?


17 posted on 04/18/2009 11:22:47 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: kellynla

Sounds like the SEAL Team Commander made the call, and Obama took the credit.


18 posted on 04/18/2009 11:23:00 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ..

(( ping ))

It’s not just the ‘Atlas Shrugs’ blog that exposed Dumbo on this fiasco.
The word is getting out...


20 posted on 04/18/2009 11:27:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kellynla

“...be sure of this: your sin will track you down.”
— Numbers 32:23 H&K Mk23 Paraphrase


21 posted on 04/18/2009 11:29:44 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Obama: Robespierre Re-spun -- The "Back In Black" Tour)
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To: surelyclintonsbaddream

“Pretender of the United States” Ping!


22 posted on 04/18/2009 11:32:57 PM PDT by scott7278 (Obama, Klaatu barada nikto!)
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To: kellynla

Reportedly, Obama originally ordered the SEAL rifles to be loaded with cannisters of weapons-grade “We Of Course Blame Your Geopolitical/Socioeconomic Situation, But Could You Please Rethink Your Actions” gas (developed by government scientists at taxpayers’ expense).


24 posted on 04/19/2009 12:22:35 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: kellynla

The military hating, “I love the military” President.


25 posted on 04/19/2009 2:05:32 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: kellynla
3 things:
1) I'd like to believe this story but, I'd also like to see some further info on this. This is a WND story...grain of salt and all that
2) I received the email listed in the thread. It rings true. As is to be expected.
3) The "grapevine" is saying that 0bama did nothing to help the situation. The "Go Go Go" was given at the discretion of the Team Leader/CO on the scene.

I look for more to come out in a month or so. Hat tip to the shooters.
26 posted on 04/19/2009 4:02:41 AM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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To: kellynla
This report sounds suspitciously like the 'Flopping Aces' report here: http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/04/17/president-obama-restricted-navy-seals-from-rescuing-ship-captain-with-force/
The report is not sourced, and is not reported as true.
28 posted on 04/19/2009 6:31:31 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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