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US lawmaker: Bring back private pirate hunters [Ron Paul] [letters of marque]
AFP ^ | 2009-04-15

Posted on 04/16/2009 1:34:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON (AFP) — A US lawmaker known for broadsides at US foreign policy says Somali piracy has an age-old solution: "Letters of marque" empowering private citizens to chase the seaborne scoundrels from the oceans.

Republican Representative Ron Paul and a handful of conservative theorists say it's time that the US Congress used the technique, pioneered by European powers in the 18th Century as a way to wage naval warfare on the cheap.

Major shipping companies should accept a "go at your own risk" approach and not expect government help when they transit through pirate-infested waters, Paul said this week in a video posted on the public Internet site YouTube.

"I don't think just because people go into these dangerous waters that our army and navy and air force and everything has to follow," he said, adding that letters of marque would allow merchant ships to sail armed.

"I think if every potential pirate knew that this would be the case, they would have second thoughts, because they could probably be blown out of the water rather easily if those were the conditions," said the Texas lawmaker.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 111th; lettersofmarque; pirates; ronpaul; somalia; somaliapirates
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1 posted on 04/16/2009 1:34:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: djsherin; bamahead

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2 posted on 04/16/2009 1:34:40 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m all for arming merchantmen, but there’s nothing wrong with the Navy doing its job.


3 posted on 04/16/2009 1:37:32 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Bring on the NRA/GOA Somalia / Gulf of Aden cruises. Bring your own rifles or pony up cash to crew the chain guns, rocket launchers, or deck guns.

Sorry, no stops at foreign ports - can’t go in there armed, right?


4 posted on 04/16/2009 1:38:15 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well the USN has been the guarantor of the Freedom of Navigation of the world's seas. It doesn't surprise me that Ron Paul would suggest that maybe we shouldn't be doing this — him not being a big believer in what he sees as a US Imperium.
5 posted on 04/16/2009 1:41:02 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Tallguy

I have no problem with the Navy handling the problem but I would support issuing Letters of Marque and Reprisal as well since they would not be under the same rules of engagement that have hamstrung our military in dealing with these terrorists.


6 posted on 04/16/2009 1:47:12 PM PDT by JMS
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To: rabscuttle385
Bad boys bad boys
Whatcha gonna do?

Whatcha gonna do when they come for you???

Or maybe:

Dog, Bounty Hunter! lol

I think they could also try something like the “Deadliest Catch” Crab guys up in Alaska!

The point is that we could turn this into a profit making venture for the right people, if only the government would let them do this!

Ron Paul is often a nut, but even a broken watch is right twice a day, I LIKE this idea!

7 posted on 04/16/2009 1:53:06 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: JMS

Congress should go to the Private Security firms (Blackwater, et al.) and solicit proposals for patrolling the Somali coastline. I bet they’d be amazed at the creative solutions that they’d get. Probably be very affordable too, especially if the got to keep any craft that they seized.


8 posted on 04/16/2009 2:01:31 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: rabscuttle385
There really isn't a great deal about foreign policy in the Constitution, but letters of marque are there (Article I, Section 8). Funny - they're actually called "letters of marque and reprisal," as if those old guys thought it might be a good thing to attack pirates at their bases. What silly ideas they had back then!


I better not need a sarcasm tag for that...

9 posted on 04/16/2009 2:07:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul just proves yet again how wacky he is. Letters of Marque were used to grant the right to sieze an opposing country’s MERCHANT SHIPS and keep part of the prize as compensation.

Not much profit in siezing a leaky Somali dinghy.


10 posted on 04/16/2009 2:09:38 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Billthedrill
as if those old guys thought it might be a good thing to attack pirates at their bases.

Yea, those whacky Founding Fathers and their crazy ideas....

11 posted on 04/16/2009 2:09:50 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Add the reprisal part and it would encourage things like sending decoys out. Pirates go for decoy, pirates blown out of the water.


12 posted on 04/16/2009 2:13:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Kansas58

What a great idea ... Dog and the crew joining the SEALs. I LOVE it!!


13 posted on 04/16/2009 3:04:43 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (There are no points for second place.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Sign up Blackwater—RIGHT NOW-
Put 6 or more on EVERY ship passing thru that area of lawlessness.

Arm them to the teeth, and cycle them over to the next ship passing the other direction, like a shuttle.


14 posted on 04/16/2009 3:23:30 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Fast Moving Angel; Yo-Yo

I also like that cable TV show where they use the decoy cars, and wait for people to steal them, then lock the car doors and turn off the engines, by remote control!

Why not a converted cruise ship, with the rooms all converted to prison cells?

Just go up and down the coast until some Pirates board the ship, lock them up, and then go for more!


15 posted on 04/16/2009 3:41:59 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: wordsofearnest

Actually, I think its a dandy idea. Frankly speaking, our Navy has bigger fish to fry and protecting their own assets is something the shippers can and should do.

Not to mention that letters of marque would be ideal for privately-owned Q-ships, that could be sent into the area looking like big fat dumb merchies, but with some extremely heavy firepower hidden away until the scumbags are close enough to get blown away.

Heck, it’d even be fun!


16 posted on 04/16/2009 3:55:58 PM PDT by Ronin (Just when you're winning the rat race -- along come faster rats....)
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To: rabscuttle385; djsherin; bamahead; murphE; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Captain Kirk; Gondring; ...

Ron Paul Ping


17 posted on 04/16/2009 4:35:11 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: rabscuttle385

How about privatization? Have the shippers pay for their own protection.


18 posted on 04/16/2009 4:39:14 PM PDT by Wolfie
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How about privatization? Have the shippers pay for their own protection.

If the problem worsened they probably would. It's my understanding that they've made the calculation that it is cheaper to pay ransom for crew & shipments given the current risk level. Seems rather defeatist, but there it is.

19 posted on 04/16/2009 5:21:42 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Kansas58
Ron Paul is often a nutCONSISTENT, but even a broken watch is right twice a day, I LIKE this idea!

There, now isn't that MUCH better???

20 posted on 04/16/2009 10:04:25 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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