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California's new power source a solar farm (orbiting set of solar panels beam energy to FResno Co.)
SFGate.com ^ | 4/14/09 | David R. Baker

Posted on 04/14/2009 1:00:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

California's next source of renewable power could be an orbiting set of solar panels, high above the equator, that would beam electricity back to Earth via a receiving station in Fresno County.

Pacific Gas and Electric Co. has agreed to buy power from a startup company that wants to tap the strong, unfiltered sunlight found in space to solve the growing demand for clean energy.

Sometime before 2016, Solaren Corp. plans to launch the world's first orbiting solar farm. Unfurled in space, the panels would bask in near-constant sunshine and provide a steady flow of electricity day and night.

Receivers on the ground would take the energy - transmitted through a beam of electromagnetic waves - and feed it into California's power grid.

The idea has been discussed for decades. It appeared in science fiction as far back as 1941 and later received serious study by NASA and the Pentagon. At times, it has been dismissed as fantasy.

But San Francisco's PG&E considers it realistic enough to support. ..

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"We'd all read about it, thought about it, and it seemed to be a good, next challenging project for the space industry," he said. "The timing is right."

Not a 'laser death ray'

He also dismissed fears, raised in the past, that the transmission beam could hurt birds or airline passengers who stray into its path. The beam would be too diffuse for that.

"This isn't a laser death ray," Boerman said. "With an airplane flying at altitude, the sun is putting about four or five times more energy on the airplane than we would be."

Placing solar panels in orbit would solve two of the biggest problems facing the solar industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; energy; powersource; solar; solarfarm; solarpanels
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1 posted on 04/14/2009 1:00:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

As someone who’s been to Fresno I expect those solar panels will be stolen soon.


2 posted on 04/14/2009 1:01:55 PM PDT by exist
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To: NormsRevenge

Solar power sats were proposed by Heinlein back in the 40s or 50s. They were completely possible in the 1960s.

Envirowackos will probably block this one, too.


3 posted on 04/14/2009 1:02:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yup, Arnie’s gonna have to open up child garment sweat factories using child labor to pay for it too.


4 posted on 04/14/2009 1:02:28 PM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Spktyr

I think it would be fantastic if they ended up in the wrong orbit and sent blinding light into algore’s bedroom windows!


5 posted on 04/14/2009 1:03:29 PM PDT by Holicheese (Gimme Gimme Gimme!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is everyone in California on mind altering drugs?


6 posted on 04/14/2009 1:03:38 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: NormsRevenge

YESSSS!!! About time!

I’ve been waiting since we launched Skylab for this: If we can put something as big as Skylab in orbit, we can sure put a powersat in GSO!


7 posted on 04/14/2009 1:05:44 PM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Question... how do you “beam” electricity from a satellite to earth? Radio signals, I understand...


8 posted on 04/14/2009 1:05:46 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: NormsRevenge

that’s really interesting—
is it cost-efficient enough, though?


9 posted on 04/14/2009 1:05:53 PM PDT by myaccount2009
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To: Spktyr

I have always wondered how you get the electricity to the ground without it finding it’s own way to earth like a lightening bolt. Even if you could get the flow of electrons to follow a straight path for hundreds of miles without insulation wouldn’t a plane crossing the path be caught in a virtual welding arc?


10 posted on 04/14/2009 1:06:03 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: NormsRevenge

This is actually a good idea, but I fully expect the libs to start claiming that it harms birds or some crap.


11 posted on 04/14/2009 1:07:57 PM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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Question... how do you “beam” electricity from a satellite to earth? Radio signals, I understand...

I think the basic concept is coherent microwaves, but someone more knowledgeable will likely correct me shortly.
12 posted on 04/14/2009 1:08:50 PM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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To: myaccount2009
"is it cost-efficient enough, though?"

Read between the lines in the article:

"PG&E has not disclosed how much money it has agreed to spend on Solaren's electricity, money that would come from the utility's customers.

"I can say it will be comparable to other renewable energy that's been approved recently by the California Public Utilities Commission," Marshall said."


IOW, somewhere between 2 and 4 times as expensive as current sources of current.
13 posted on 04/14/2009 1:09:44 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: dblshot

You do it via high energy photons, then convert those to electricity on the ground.

I wonder what the power estimates are for this. If it’s good, I’d support it fully.


14 posted on 04/14/2009 1:10:47 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: dblshot

Heinlein envisioned the solar power sats firing microwave beams back to the receiver stations. You would have to route aircraft around them, of course.

You can, of course, convert microwave radiation back into electricity.


15 posted on 04/14/2009 1:10:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: myaccount2009

The only thing that really screws with the cost efficiency picture is the cost per pound of lofting stuff into orbit. Solar power sats are going to be *big* things to have to send up.


16 posted on 04/14/2009 1:12:49 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Heinlein envisioned the solar power sats firing microwave beams back to the receiver stations
Which means we have massive amounts of microwave energy hitting molecules of H20 in the atmosphere. When I put a cup of water in microwave I get hot water. That ought to make Al Gore's Global Warming come true.
17 posted on 04/14/2009 1:17:27 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: Spktyr

Don’t know if it washes economically, but one plus would be that it could send power 24hrs/day, which land based solar cannot.


18 posted on 04/14/2009 1:19:21 PM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: Tolsti2
Ah, high energy photons
Like photon torpedoes only benign. Of course we have never transmitted electricity this way in any real world application but what the heck, that's why we built the super collider I guess.
19 posted on 04/14/2009 1:22:02 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: NormsRevenge

Count me in as a skeptic...


20 posted on 04/14/2009 1:28:13 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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