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Joe Biden: Vice President and Serial Fabricator
humanevents.com ^ | 04/14/2009 | A.W.R. Hawkins

Posted on 04/14/2009 4:45:47 AM PDT by kellynla

If only Vice President Joe Biden had stuck to plagiarism. But he apparently hasn’t learned. In 1987, he copied and used a large chunk of a speech given by British labor leader Neil Kinnock, even though some of the facts (related to family history) didn’t match his own. Since then, he’s gone from plagiarism to smashmouth rhetorician.

Last week, Biden was called out by former Bush advisor Karl Rove because Biden repeatedly said he’d chastised President Bush in person. And Biden came out of the ensuing discussion with a lot of mud on his face.

On April 6, 2009, Biden said: “I remember President Bush saying to me one time in the Oval Office, 'Well, Joe, I'm a leader.' And I said: 'Mr. President, turn and around look behind you. No one is following.’” Three days later, on April 9, Rove said Biden’s conversation with Bush did not happen. Candida P. Wolff, Bush’s White House liaison, concurred: “I don't ever remember Biden being in the Oval. He was such a blowhard on all that stuff -- there wasn't a reason to bring him in."

Facts notwithstanding, Biden has been telling stories that make it sound like he had unfettered access to Bush for some time. On HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher” in April 2006, Biden said: “The president will say things to me, and I'll literally turn to the president, say: 'Mr. President, how can you say that, knowing you don't know the facts?' And he'll look at me and…say: 'My instincts. …I have good instincts.' [To which I’ll say]: 'Mr. President, your instincts aren't good enough.'"

Although these various yarns might spin quite well on a sideshow like Maher’s, they don’t pass muster with people like Rove or anyone else that served in the Bush administration (except, of course, that great American Scott McClellan). Still, “Biden spokesman Jay Carney said…the vice president stands by his [remarks].”

Which is not surprising, given Biden’s record.

In the run-up to the 2008 presidential election, Joe Biden’s conspicuous problems with the truth led even left-leaning reporters to label him a “gaffe machine.” And when his storytelling got too out of hand on the campaign trail, Barack Obama hid him from the public, leaving us with echoes of his frequent (falsified) trips to Home Depot.

And while Sarah Palin was one of the first conservatives with the moral fortitude to point out Biden’s falsehoods with, “There you go again, Joe,” Karl Rove just made certain she wasn’t the last. On April 9, 2009, Rove grew tired of Biden’s fiction and called him a “serial fabricator.”

In one television appearance Rove actually called Biden a “liar.” Which is no more -- and no less -- than a fact.

Biden is a “serial fabricator.” In his debate with Palin, he claimed to support “clean coal,” even though he was on record saying of the Obama/Biden ticket: “We’re not supporting clean coal." He told Palin that Obama had said nothing about meeting Iran’s president for talks “without preconditions,” while the New York Post reported that when “Obama was asked if he would [meet “without preconditions”] in a debate during the primaries, he said ‘yes.’”

In his debate with Palin, Biden also told America that “[Senator John] McCain voted ‘the exact same way’ as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000.” But that was a lie as well: McCain did not support the increase. On energy issues, Biden said he agreed with McCain/Palin’s calls for increased drilling. His exact words were “drill we must.” But, as stoptheaclu.com revealed, “Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to ‘raping’ the Outer Continental Shelf.”

After the Vice Presidential primaries, Boston’s Howie Carr described Biden’s ongoing embellishments as an attempt “to prove his authenticity,” while Slate magazine took it a bit further: “Biden's…self-aggrandizing thefts, misstatements, and exaggerations…seem…to point to a serious character defect."

Of course, Biden’s fabrications did not begin with his debate against Palin. For example, in July 2008 Biden claimed to have been to the Green Zone in Iraq “seven times and shot at” while there. But when Fox New’s Bill Sammon and others pressed Biden on this fiction he “backpedaled from [the] claim of being ‘shot at’ and instead allowed: ‘I was near where a shot landed.’"

Then, not even two months later, Biden gave a speech to National Guardsmen in which he spoke of being in a helicopter that came under terrorist attack and “was forced down, with a three-star general and three senators at 10,500 feet in the middle of [the] mountains [in Afghanistan].” But guess what? It was soon discovered that it had been “inclement weather, not terrorists, [which] prompted the chopper to land in an open field during Biden's visit to Afghanistan in February 2008.”

To make matters worse, one of the other senators aboard the helicopter with Biden was John Kerry, who told the AP: “We were going to send Biden out to fight the Taliban with snowballs [when our helicopter landed], but we didn't have to." Kerry added that, “"Other than getting a little cold, [things were] fine."

Think about that: Biden’s lies were so bad that even Kerry made fun of him.

And now, after drawing sniper fire that he didn’t draw and taking part in an emergency landing caused by terrorists who weren’t there, Biden has drawn Rove’s ire by relating stories of how he “rebuked” President George W. Bush in an Oval Office meeting that didn’t take place.

Biden’s inability to stop and correct his fiction is a guarantee that this won’t be the last time we’ll remember Palin glancing at him and saying, “There you go again, Joe.” And it also means that Rove’s “serial fabricator” remains on the loose, seeking “to prove his authenticity” by telling us many great and wonderful things that never happened.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; joebiden; karlrove; vicpresident
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1 posted on 04/14/2009 4:45:47 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Hey. Give Biden a break! What do you expect from a mentally challenged great nephew of Jubilation T. Cornpone?

<;oD


2 posted on 04/14/2009 4:49:24 AM PDT by DGHoodini (God's gonna getcha!)
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To: kellynla

If a Republican lied as much as Biden does he’d have been long gone from the public scene. This guy is seriously mentally disturbed but he is in favor of killing babies so he can stay.


3 posted on 04/14/2009 4:50:38 AM PDT by hometoroost (Eine Reich, Eine Volk, Eine Teleprompter)
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To: DGHoodini
Wait a sec----you're gonna feel a lot better (/snic)

Obama Says He's Appointed Biden to Oversee Implementation of Stimulus Plan
FoxNews | 2/23/2009

"Hi there, Americans. I'll get going on the
stiumulus, soon as I get my colon cleansed."

4 posted on 04/14/2009 4:53:36 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: kellynla

Biden is from the Pa area, and spent his life on the East Coast.

Coming from that area we know BS’ers when we see them, and people who puff themselves up to be more than they are.

Joey is certainly one of those, and has chosen a profession where this type of behavior has no consequence.


5 posted on 04/14/2009 4:55:30 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: kellynla
GM Joe - the cereal fabricator


Joe and his bag of "trix"

6 posted on 04/14/2009 4:57:04 AM PDT by shezza (A government that gives you everything you want can take away everything you have.)
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To: hometoroost

Every vice president is mocking referred to by his enemies as being “impeachment insurance” but in Biden’s case, you have to wonder if that is not precisely what Obama had in mind.

I mean, come on folks! Try and say “President Biden” without shuddering.


7 posted on 04/14/2009 4:57:09 AM PDT by Ronin (Just when you're winning the rat race -- along come faster rats....)
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To: Liz

Love the pic. Goofy the train passenger.


8 posted on 04/14/2009 5:11:54 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: kellynla
Biden is a “serial fabricator Liar.”
9 posted on 04/14/2009 5:17:39 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: kellynla
Biden is a “serial fabricator.”

Actually, I prefer the term: "lying piece of excrement".

The man is a damned fool.

10 posted on 04/14/2009 5:18:29 AM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: kellynla

Let’s not forget that the biggest lie of all told by Biden has been that the driver of the truck in the accident that killed his first wife “drank his lunch.” That is an unconscionable lie that the MSM totally ignored. Worse, though, is that Biden feels no remorse at all.


11 posted on 04/14/2009 5:25:45 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA last weekend. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: kellynla

After Rove called Plugs a liar on TV, Biden was supposed to hold a news conference to respond, at least that is what i read the day following Rove’s comments. I could never find anyhting about the press conference and i am assuming it is because he never held one.

Am I right or did I just miss it, somehow?


12 posted on 04/14/2009 5:33:11 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: patriotspride

“Joey is certainly one of those, and has chosen a profession where this type of behavior has no consequence.”

The Ole Gaffer is actually kind of entertaining. The best part of his comments is that the old fool actually takes himself seriously. However, in reality he has become the court jester to those of us who are conservatives and an embarrassement to those of liberal persuasion. Personally, I hope Obama doesn’t lock him up and continues to let’s him run loose. He’s good thing for those of us who are hoping for change in 2010 and 2012. Go Joe go!


13 posted on 04/14/2009 5:35:28 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: DGHoodini

Biden had an aneurysm in his brain repaired years ago and was lucky to survive. Brain insults result in long term damage. Reagan fell off his horse, hit his head on a rock and got alzheimers. Biden had brain trauma, brain surgery and now acts like a loon.


14 posted on 04/14/2009 5:37:06 AM PDT by x_plus_one ("Salvation comes about though change in individual lives, not through the ending of unjust society")
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To: kellynla

Biden is mentally unstable. He cannot differentiate reality from fiction. He lies without compunction, not stopping to think if his stories make sense or can be checked. It is scary that this man is VP.


15 posted on 04/14/2009 5:42:40 AM PDT by Raster Man
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To: kellynla

So, Biden lies. Obama lies. Both Clintons lie. Reid lies, Pelosi lies, Schumer lies, Frank lies, Dodd lies. They are liberals. What else is new?


16 posted on 04/14/2009 5:44:54 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: x_plus_one

He reminds me of the mayor in “Blazing Saddles”.


17 posted on 04/14/2009 6:10:27 AM PDT by antidean
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To: kellynla
And my girlfriend is Morgan Fairchild...yeah that's the ticket.
18 posted on 04/14/2009 6:29:11 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a blessing to live in the Ozarks.)
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To: merchvent
I could have gone all day without seeing that pic...
thanks...you just ruined my breakfast appetite
20 posted on 04/14/2009 6:40:04 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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