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Wait for the USS Boxer
Vanity | 12 April, 2009 | Mariner

Posted on 04/12/2009 9:16:17 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner
Well, today's events just show that the SEALS have probably had a plan in place for some tiome and were waiting for the go ahead from above...my guess is that the tone of the negotiations and the refusal by the pirates and their representatives made it clear that the go ahead was necessary.

My guess is also that I would not be surprised to find that yesterdays manuever by the small craft from the Bainbridge was repeated to fix the attention of the pirates when the SEALS were in position to act.

121 posted on 04/12/2009 11:25:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Thes Pirates are not Jihadists or ideological fanatics. They are simple gangsters trying to extort money.

This is a perfect description of Mohammad. Who was Mohammad? he was a sand pirate. He made his living from robbing caravans and pillaging villages and cities.

What is the essence of Islam? It gives brigands and robbers sanction to pillage, rape, and plunder (as long as they are kind to fellow Islamic brigands).

122 posted on 04/12/2009 11:37:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Jeff Head
And this job is not done. Now we must:

1. Have the US Navy announce (no, not the State Dept or prez) this activity will no longer be tolerated.

2. Sink everything they put to sea which has no hostages aboard.

3. Capture as many as possible, waterboard them for info on the leadership and their assets.

4. Launch targeted strikes against pirate leadership.

5. Target one of their ports...seal it off with Airborne assault units...and send in sufficient firepower to destroy everything and everyone there. Rescue what hostages we can, of course. But, those captured ships must go back to sea.

123 posted on 04/12/2009 11:39:08 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
Yes, I stand by what I said.

The Navy did not act until they had approval from Obama.

I am sure they had plans in place days ago but were told to hold off. I am also sure those plans would have been successful as well--same boat, same situation, same waters. . .why Obama waited we don't know--unless we take into account he was reading the political tea-leaves and finally saw he better act.

The Navy acted when allowed to, not on their own timetable.

124 posted on 04/12/2009 11:40:23 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Mariner
Amen to every bit of that.

We have a very strong force in the immediate area now...and more coming. I believe they will act and that piracy will suffer a significant and abject defeat because of their terror on the high seas.

As well they should.

125 posted on 04/12/2009 11:42:41 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Mariner

Rather prophetic...

The Easter SEALS made themselves known today!


126 posted on 04/12/2009 12:06:58 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Hulka
The One is making Carter look like a hawk.

Still think that? I told everyone on FR for days that Obama would take decisive action. He is not an idealistic moron like Carter.

127 posted on 04/12/2009 12:41:58 PM PDT by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: Mariner; All
Looks like this thread is now moot...

Captain jumps overboard, SEALs shoot pirates, official says

128 posted on 04/12/2009 1:04:14 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: FreepShop1
Yes, still believe that and I am surprised you don’t, now that it has come out that The One authorized force twice, get that, twice, as opposed to letting the on-scene commander do his job he had to go back to The One and mother-may-I before taking action. Carter all the way. Oh, and get that. . . The One made the decision when to act, NOT the Navy, as you incorrectly posted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2227654/posts

129 posted on 04/12/2009 2:11:20 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka
The One made the decision when to act, NOT the Navy, as you incorrectly posted.

Well, the Pentagon asked him for approval, according to the AP. But it's academic, anyway. My point, for 2 days here, is that Obama would surprise us by supporting decisive action. He always plays against type. Everyone on this forum blasted him yesterday and said he would vacillate, pay their ransom, let them take the Capt. to shore, etc. We continually underestimate him, as Hillary and McCain did. He is no Jimmy Carter--at least in terms of having a tin ear for politics, as Jimmah did. He is as wily an adversary as we have ever faced.

130 posted on 04/12/2009 3:36:33 PM PDT by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: pabianice

You mean LHA or LHD. The last LPH was decommissioned in 1998.


131 posted on 04/12/2009 4:55:51 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Mariner
That's a picture of an AFSOC MH-53, all of which have been retired.

The ACE of the embarked MEU on the Boxer is equipped with CH-53s, CH-46s and UH-1s and HSC-21 is also embarked with MH-60s.

132 posted on 04/12/2009 5:06:07 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I stand corrected. Thanks. All those big floaty things look alike to me. 8*)


133 posted on 04/13/2009 5:51:31 AM PDT by pabianice
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