Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 04/10/2009 12:58:07 PM PDT by saganite
Oh no. He’s really into it but just because you know activity is low doesn’t mean you can’t get lucky. I think he was holding out great hopes that we’d see one.
Actually, the sunspot activity is low because of global warming. I have it on good authority from NASA.
It’s one thing for people to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite *another* to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...
THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply *one* video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the *one*...
The following is an *excellent* video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.
“The Great Global Warming Swindle”
If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[this is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size...]
It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.
Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course...]
Buy it here...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE
[this one would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...]
I think Algore and his minions should bring a legal case against the sun. The sun shouldn’t be allowed to not have sunspots and to cause global warming! Where’s the justice?!!!! Let’s get the Greenie’s mobilized!!!!!
bttt
So, basically, all we need to do to solve global warming is to rebuild all those coal fired power plants they shut down.Cheaper energy, too.
>>CO2 as a temperature rising condition was disproven 100 years ago.
Sadly, that science has been ignored, while Darwin has been twisted inside to show that it is accurate. The scientific community is just as political as any other and they will cram any scientific theory to fit their political ideology.
http://neighbors.denverpost.com/blog.php/2009/02/04/greenhouse-theory-disproved-a-century-ago/<<
I believe you and/or the author misread
What was demonstrated was that green houses don’t work on the greenhouse gas principle. That’s because most heat exchange near the surface relies on convection (i.e. movement of the warmed air). The greenhouse gas theory itself is part of standard physic education.
CO2 is now out outside of its range at any time homosapians have existed on the earth and is undoubtedly having some effect.
What I remain unconvinced of is what portion of the current warming is due to Co2.
>>This doesn’t say that CO2 isn’t a factor in the temperature rise. It says there may be another factor.
What do you base that on?
>>What is sadly lacking is a breakdown as to how much of the rise is from which cause.
Unfortunately that might not be possible. Look into “Chaos Theory”.
It’s a branch of mathematics describing “complex systems”. You may have heard about the “Butterfly-effect” — a butterfly flaps its wings in Peking and a month later you have tornadoes in Kansas.<<
I did study a little chaos math and was a poor student of a physics professor they called the Evangelist of Chaos.
The layman’s statement of the butterfly effect overlooks sensitivity. The weather system turns out not to have enough sensitivity to butterflies to cause many tornadoes. Chaos is frequently confused with the idea that everything is random when in fact the accumulation of random events can be predictable. For example , nobody can tell you where a snowflake will land but they can give good estimates of snow accumulation.
>>Anytime anybody — including a climatologist — tells you with certainty that CO2 levels are directly linked to Global Warming they are guilty of a gross oversimplification. <<
You mean the current global warming? All the physicists and atmospheric dynamics I know agree that the increase by a third in CO2 recently is a factor in global warming.
What I can’t get an answer I can understand is an estimate of how much is from CO2 - I’d take an estimate comparable to a weather forecast. i.e. I expect error bars around the numbers.
Actually the pre-industrial level of 280 ppm may be correct if we’re talking about certain periods before the Industrial Revolution, but even in the 19th century it varied between around 280 ppm and almost 500 ppm. The overall average for the 19th century was about 330 ppm.
What it does clearly explain, is that the insulation (the greenhouse) does not set the thermostat - the Sun does; which is observable with your own home.
Just try adding allot of insulation, and then vastly lower your heater’s thermostat, and see how long your house stays warm anyway. In time, it doesn’t. The insulation helps keep in the heat you’ve given it, but it can’t ADD heat, and even the best insulation (highest CO2 count?) does not stop heat loss, and as lower the heat input it will still cool, eventually, if heat-input is continually reduced, your house will become a well insulated freezer, not a “green house”. So too the earth.
I would not put it past our communists to try and ban any serious study of the sun. The left will at least try to defund as much real science as possible.
He’s saying that CO2 is not significant. Here watch him yourself in this presentation.
April 6th, 2009 — Dr. Soon Presentation
http://www.lakelandgov.net/news/lgn/videos/9055/Utility_Committee_Meeting_2009_04_06.htm
click on the Global Warming link
Beer’s law
re: Beer’s law
is Wikipedia accurate?
“Beer law states that absorption is proportional to the concentration of absorbing species in the material”
That would imply the that a continuing increase in the concentration above 100 ppm would not have a diminishing effect.
Man-made global warming will change to man-made global cooling.........
We now definitely need government help!
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