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To: SnakeDoctor
These are not amnesty candidates. These immigrants did it the right way. I have no disdain whatsoever for immigrants that followed the rules. They earned their vote.

Show me any evidence that these legal immigrants are conservative. Any at all. Again, we are talking such a tiny minority of the hispanics in this country. Tell me how we gain their vote.

Bush tried to win the hispanic vote the way the dems are winning it - with amnesty and all kinds of giveaways and he still got only 44%. What more to we promise them?

81 posted on 04/08/2009 1:08:03 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

I don’t know about the immigrants,

but the country in general polls as (non-political) conservatives, ie, that’s how they live their lives, 2 to 1 vs liberals.

They just haven’t been educated correctly and believe socialism isn’t harmful to their lives.


82 posted on 04/08/2009 1:09:38 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: raybbr

>> Show me any evidence that these legal immigrants are conservative. Any at all. [...] Tell me how we gain their vote.

People aren’t born conservative or liberal, and I don’t believe that race is the only controlling factor here. We gain their vote the same way we would gain anyone else’s — we show them that conservatism is what made this country great in the first place, it is the reason that we were their destination. We show them that freedom is preferable to tyranny, that conservatism is the only way to preserve the American Dream that they came here to fulfill.

>> Bush tried to win the hispanic vote the way the dems are winning it - with amnesty and all kinds of giveaways and he still got only 44%. What more to we promise them?

We can’t win it “the way Dems are winning it”. They’ll always one-up us. We have to win it based on OUR OWN principles — freedom, autonomy, the American Dream.

SnakeDoc


84 posted on 04/08/2009 1:32:37 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but ... the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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To: raybbr
“Tell me how we gain their vote.”

You keep asking what we need to give Hispanics to win their vote. Allow me to answer that for you. What we need to give them is respect. They vote for Democrats because Democrats tend to welcome them with open arms. Republicans say nice things to them at election time, some do anyway, but mostly what they hear from Republicans is that they are the enemy. They are sub humans that are here to to suck the system dry. They're flawed human beings with a flawed culture. There is so much hatred directed towards these people and it comes mostly from Republicans.

I deal with Hispanics all the time. My law partner does nothing but immigration. I actually handle a fair amount of immigration cases myself. I deal with people from all over the world, including Hispanics. For the most part these are very hard working family oriented people. Most are very religious, either Catholic or evangelical Christians. They are against things like gay marriage and abortion. They are very much socially conservative. Only a small percentage of them take anything from the government. They don't want handouts. All they really want is respect, and they don't feel like they get that from Republicans. They know how Republicans malign them. They hear the kind of hateful crap you see here on Freerepublic everyday. It's obvious to them which side welcomes them and which side hates them.

I honestly believe that if we discouraged the hateful rhetoric, if we treat these people with respect, we could eventually win an awful lot of them over. They aren't Democrats because they are liberals. They're Democrats because they feel like Republicans don't like them and don't care about them.

We had better figure this out, or we are screwed. The Hispanic population is growing by leaps and bounds every year. I'm in a small town and more than a hundred people swear in as citizens here every single month, and more than half of these new voters in my area are Hispanics. We're pretty solidly Republican in my area but that will change unless we do a better job of showing these people that we respect them and we appreciate them and we want them on our team.

93 posted on 04/08/2009 9:21:32 PM PDT by merican
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