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The Banker Who Said No
Forbes ^ | 2009-04-03

Posted on 04/05/2009 10:29:05 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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1 posted on 04/05/2009 10:29:05 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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Beal has barely got a dime from the feds. A self-described "libertarian kind of guy," Beal believes the government helped create the credit crisis. Now he finds it "crazy" that bankers who acted irresponsibly are getting money and he's not. But he wants to exploit their recklessness to amass his own fortune.

Ping!

2 posted on 04/05/2009 10:29:35 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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3 posted on 04/05/2009 10:30:21 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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He was correct, now if we could just roll back time and stop Bush and Paulson and the Tarp Rich Man Bailout BS Train.
4 posted on 04/05/2009 10:40:03 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: rabscuttle385
Sounds like he understands things. Here's his prediction:

"Banks are on a prayer mission that somehow prices will come back and they won't have to face reality," Beal says. And that reality, according to Beal, is going to get a lot worse. "Unemployment is going over 10%, commercial real estate hasn't even begun collapsing and corporate credit defaults are just getting started," he says. His prediction: depression, without bread lines this time, thanks to the government safety net, but with equal cost to society.

Have fun!

5 posted on 04/05/2009 10:40:41 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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Interesting man. These people fascinate me as I have no money or business savvy at all. It would be fun to sit in for a day and listen to the proposals and verdicts.


6 posted on 04/05/2009 10:51:21 AM PDT by avenir
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To: rabscuttle385

Amazing story.


7 posted on 04/05/2009 10:57:39 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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All the indicators were there that we had a huge realestate bubble and irresponsible..idiotic..loans being made for many reasons. The bad loans haven’t stopped..the prices are just down. Eventually the loans and the real value of the underlying property must match.
The lack of a read “free market” for these assets is the problem..the govt, with their plan, is still trying to overvalue them.


8 posted on 04/05/2009 11:06:51 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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Good businessman, no doubt. But if Beal’s organization practices fractional reserve banking, which I’m sure it does, he’s just another cog in a machine that must be dismantled.

He’s just another agent of inflation at the end of the day.


9 posted on 04/05/2009 11:19:55 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Now is zee time on Schprockets ven ve dance!)
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He’s just another agent of inflation at the end of the day.

Beal's a smart guy, no doubt. But, if we hit hyperinflation... those cheap loans will be a disaster unless he can adjust the rates. He's gambling that the economy stabilizes and people continue to make the loan payments. If the $15 million note he bought for $5 million defaults, he's toast. Worse, if the $15 million is repaid in hyper inflationary conditions, the value of the money will be substantially less than his board realizes. In all, though, I hope he succeeds!

10 posted on 04/05/2009 11:31:21 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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If he’s making loans of any kind, he’s creating money and causing inflation.

Just the way fractional reserve banking works, that’s all.


11 posted on 04/05/2009 11:37:01 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Now is zee time on Schprockets ven ve dance!)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is a good example of why a subscription to Forbes is worth the price you pay.


12 posted on 04/05/2009 12:17:18 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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A self-described "libertarian kind of guy," Beal believes the government helped create the credit crisis. Now he finds it "crazy" that bankers who acted irresponsibly are getting money and he's not.



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13 posted on 04/05/2009 12:18:07 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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The guy sounds like he knows what he’s doing when other don’t. How I wish more people were like him, including our supposedly intelligent leaders.


14 posted on 04/05/2009 1:22:00 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (The strength and power of despotism consists wholly in the fear of resistance. - Thomas Paine)
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The sad part is that we almost did stop them. It failed the first vote in the House. When the second vote was taken, the yellow bellied Representatives gave Pelosi their balls.

More than sad, absolutely disgusting.

15 posted on 04/05/2009 1:32:19 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (The Media censored ODUMBA'S DEEP BOW to the King of Saudi Arabia. WHY?????)
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bump


16 posted on 04/05/2009 1:57:34 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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17 posted on 04/05/2009 2:01:12 PM PDT by Species8472 (You can't escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today)
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Thats awesome.


18 posted on 04/05/2009 2:47:11 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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If the $15 million note he bought for $5 million defaults, he's toast.

There's always the underlying collateral

I had wondered what was going on with him. He was a major player in the last downturn, bought the new Fina headquarters when they disappeared, started playing around with rockets, dropped that project, and then just faded out of sight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beal_Aerospace

19 posted on 04/05/2009 3:04:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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From late 2005 to summer of 2006 I worked in correspondent lending at Washington Mutual. My boss was a brilliant man. He had worked in banks most of his life, and was in his sixties.

He told me he went to a meeting at WaMu where they discussed Alt-A and other subprime loans. He listend for a while and finally said, “These loans are crazy. They are going to blow up and ruin us.”

He was told, “You don’t understand these loans. Don’t poke your nose where it doesn’t belong.”

He told me this before everything went to heck. I respect him more than any boss I ever had.


20 posted on 04/05/2009 3:09:36 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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