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'Golden leaf' growers troubled by tobacco tax rise
ap ^ | 4/2/09 | EMERY P. DALESIO

Posted on 04/02/2009 3:47:57 PM PDT by Drango

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — For more than a century, the Sharp family of eastern North Carolina has grown tobacco, nicknamed the "golden leaf" for reasons that went beyond the cured plant's rich color.

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"There's nothing else we're doing that comes even close to yielding the profits that tobacco yields."

For generations, tobacco growers were a protected class, as lawmakers across the South defended the golden leaf as stridently as politicians from Michigan and New York do automakers and Wall Street. It remains a huge business: The tobacco crop in North Carolina alone, where farmers produce nearly half the value of the entire U.S. output, was worth $686 million last year.

But lawmakers don't look out for Big Tobacco as they once did. In 2004, Congress eliminated a tobacco quota and price support system that dated to the Depression. ~snip In Raleigh, where there were spittoons North Carolina General Assembly until the mid-1980s and a smoky haze in the halls until a few years ago, House members voted this week in favor of a limited ban on public smoking. ~snip

It's a blow felt in the sandy soil fields of eastern North Carolina that are just OK for sweet potatoes, cotton, soybeans, but fantastic for tobacco. Production dropped by 27 percent to roughly 645 million pounds in 2005, the year after the quota system came to an end, but has slowly recovered in the past few years, boosted by exports and new marketing tactics.

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Growers are also looking to sell their crop overseas, and a group called the U.S. Tobacco Cooperative that buys tobacco from 3,500 growers in five Southeast states has a unit that exports American leaf to China.

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To: DJ MacWoW

I just got the DAR records on one of my ancestors. Proving the link will be a task as there is a gap. However, getting the documentation is part of the fun.


81 posted on 04/02/2009 6:21:49 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

I have enjoyed learning about their lives and the times that they lived in. And info comes from strange places sometimes. One ancestor is mentioned in a report to the Pennsylvania Governor on Indian attacks in the 1750’s. It says that he came upon Indians scalping some children. One died but 3 lived. His son was young at the time. Scary stuff.


82 posted on 04/02/2009 6:25:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Drango

You really have no clue as to the origins of this nation, do you? Read my profile page, learn about the Stamp Act, figure out what the flippin’ Boston Tea Party was all about, for crying out loud, and get back to me with your weird interpretation of a so-called “Constitution” that you seem to believe allows you to drive certain outré groups within the country to rack and ruin via targeted, confiscatory taxation. This strikes to the heart of founding principles, and you’re blathering on about regulatory schemes that the Federal Government has no enumerated power to enact, let alone enforce. Duh.


83 posted on 04/02/2009 6:27:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DJ MacWoW

Indeed, learning about the times and life is part of the fun. Here is an online class I found.
http://www.dinsdoc.com/adams-1-0a.htm


84 posted on 04/02/2009 6:28:12 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Please advance a Constitutional argument if you would like to discuss it.


85 posted on 04/02/2009 6:29:27 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
A personal favourite.

"The way to have safe government is not to trust it all to the one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to everyone exactly the functions in which he is competent....To let the National Government be entrusted with the defense of the nation, and it's foreign and federal relations..... The State Governments with the Civil Rights, Laws, Police and administration of what concerns the State generally. The Counties with the local concerns, and each ward direct the interests within itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these Republics from the great national one down through all it's subordinations until it ends in the administration of everyman's farm by himself, by placing under everyone what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best." Thomas Jefferson

86 posted on 04/02/2009 6:33:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You don't have to rely on those groups, unless you just want to join. State archives and even county archives have much of the same information, oftentimes transcribed and available for no cost online.

I've got seven RW ancestors that I am aware, both paternally and maternally. Here's one from my mother's family, that I've always found oddly affecting. Poor fellow had a hard time of it; you'd never know from this that he owned an entire mountain at one point:

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EATON, Christopher – R 3214 Declaration of Christopher Eaton, Surry Co., NC, 13 Nov. 1832 – Christopher Eaton, formerly called Christopher Valentine, a resident of Surry County, NC, aged 76 – He enlisted in 1777 with Joseph Philips, a recruiting officer at Richmond, then Surry Courthouse, NC, and served in the North Carolina line under Col. John Armstrong. They went to Richmond, VA, in the company commanded by Captain Laban or Labourn.

When he enlisted he lived in Surry Co., NC, with one Gray Bynum to whom he was bound. His name then was commonly called Christopher Valentine but has since been called Eaton, that being the English name given to his father and family in this country, his father having been a German.

After marching to Richmond, VA, they were joined by other troops, put under Col. Alexander Martin, and marched toward Philadelphia. They joined Gen. Washington at his camp at Brandywine. Christopher fought in the Battle of Brandywine in September 1777. The Americans lost about 1200 men in this battle. After the battle, we marched in various directions. We were placed under the command of Gen. Arnold and at one time stationed at White Plains (under General Nathanial Green); they were also stationed for some time at West Point and also in New Jersey. He was in several skirmishes with small parties of the British.

When General Gates was appointed to head the southern army, Christopher was sent with him and marched south to Hillsborough, NC. His term (about 3 years and 6 months) there expired and he was discharged by Capt. Labourn in May 1780. The discharge was burned in his house which burned several years ago.

Christopher then came home to Surry County. In June 1780 he volunteered in the North Carolina militia in Capt. Absalom Bostick’s company. They marched from Richmond, Surry court house, NC, to Salisbury, NC, near which place they joined headquarters under Gen. Rutherford. They then marched to Cheraw Hills, SC, where they joined the army under General Gates. They then marched twoard Camden till they met the British near Camden about August 15, 1780, where the Battle of Camden ensued. He fought in the battle against the British under Cornwallis. The Americans under Gates were defeated and “got home the best way we could (the army being scattered).” This tour lasted about 3 months. Joseph Darnell , now residing in Stokes, will testify he served in this tour with him.

Christopher was born in Surry County, NC, in 1756. The birth was recorded in his father’s Bible, which is now in the possession of Christopher’s son.

Christopher took the oath of allegiance before Joseph Winston on Nov. 1, 1776; Christopher still had the oath in his possession.

Christopher still lived in the same neighborhood in Surry County ever since the Revolutionary War.

Declaration of Christopher Eaton – Stokes Co., NC, June 12, 1833 – Christopher, a resident of Surry County. All persons knowing of his service are now dead. He swears he did enlist under Capt. Joseph Philips at Richmond, Surry Co., NC, in Nov. 1777 or 1778. He received the bounty from Joseph Philips in the presence of Henry Waller, who enlisted at the same time, also Richard Philips (called black Dick Philips) who was a regular soldier, Daniel Scott, who enlisted the same day and died the next, James Glenn, Jacob Dial (or Dyer) and others who were present, among them he recollects one John Harper, a Regular soldier. All are dead or gone from the country. While in Joseph Phlip’s company, he was marched from Richmond, Surry Co., NC, some distance towards the east and then marched to Richmond, VA, having passed through Salem, Hillsborough, Newbern, and Edenton, NC. At Richmond, VA, Capt. Philip’s company joined other forces under Col. Alexander Martin, under whom he marched to the Jerseys. Eaton was in Capt. Laban’s company and marched through Philadelphia and joined Gen. Washington’s army at his camp near Brandywine Creek. He fought in the battle of Brandywine, when Washington lost about 1200 men. He was at White Plains under General Arnold until Arnold ran away after attempting to betray his army. He was also in the battle of Monmouth. He returned to Hillsborough, NC, under Gen. Gates.

When young he did not understand the English language properly. He is entirely illiterate and does not know how to spell his name. He was sometimes called Valentine, Eater, Ettie or Hetty and his first name was either Christian or Christopher. He is very infirm and quite destitute.

Declaration of Christopher Eaton – Stokes Co., NC, 15 Apr. 1832. While his name is Eaton, his certificate of oath of allegiance before Joseph Winston, JP, is called Christopher Valentine. He states again that he served a three month tour under Capt. * of Surry Co., NC, in which tour he was at Gates defeat. He then served a three-month tour under Capt. Bostick or Capt. Lewis ? in which he guarded prisoners taken at the Battle of Kings Mountain at the old Town and in conducting them from old Town to Salisbury.

Aff. of John Venable – Stokes Co., NC, 15 Apr. 1834 – He is acquainted with Christopher Eaton and knows of his militia service. He was present at Gates defeat although Eaton did not serve in the same company with him. He recollects Eaton serving in the militia in guarding prisoners at Old Town and in the * under our captain and Capt. Bostick.

Aff. of Hugh Boyles, Stokes Co., NC, 14 June 1836 – Boyles, 67 or 68, resident of Stokes – Boyles remembers when Christopher Valentine lived at his neighbor, Capt. Bynums, in Surry County as a bound apprentice and that Christopher’s play fellows would vex and plague him for being a glutton and give him the name of “Eater.” Christopher ran away from his master. Boyles was told Christopher enlisted as a Continental soldier under Capt. Jo. Philips of Surry County with whom Boyles was acquainted. When Christopher returned to Hugh’s father William Boyles in Surry County, Christopher gave a history of dangers he had encountered in his routes to the north. Shortly afterwards Christopher started to go to his brother who had marched in Capt. William Hughlett’s company toward Salisbury. Christopher did not return for three or four months. He “came back almost bare naked for clothing” and told them about more battles, one of which was Gates defeat. After some time, Christopher “fixed himself” and started a horse back into service in Capt. Shepperd’s company. After some time he returned to Hugh’s father’s with and a parcel of continental money he said he had received for his services. The money was of little value as it had depreciated.

John Venables – Stokes Co., NC, 15 June 1836 – John has been acquainted with Christopher Valentine or Eaton ever since 1773. Christopher was first called Christian Eater but this “seemed to give him an offense” and he would state his name was Christopher Eaton. On his oath of allegiance it states Christopher Valentine. “I saw this same identical man” in United States service in the army commanded by General Gates in summer 1780, which army was defeated by the British troops under Lord “Corn Wallace” on August 16, 1780. In fall of the same year, Venables saw the same man guarding the army of prisoners taken at Ferguson’s defeat on Kings Mountain.

Declaration of Christopher Valentine – Stokes Co., NC, 15 June 1836 – resident of Stokes, aged 76 Sept. 7 next. He entered service in November 1778 as a private in the Regular serice under Capt. Joseph Philips at old Richmond, Surry Co., Nc, in Col. John Armstrong’s Regiment. He received thirty dollars bounty in Continental money, having taken the oath of allegiance before Major Joseph Winston, J.P., 1 Nov. 1778.

He was an apprentice and bound when an infant to Gray Bynum of Surry County from whom he ran away and enlisted. After remaining in Surry old courthouse sometime, when his captain had recruited and made up his company, he marched from there to Richmond, VA, where he was put in a company commanded by Capt. Laborn or Labon. He then marched to Baltimore and joined Genral Arnold’s army and marched to near White Planes. He joined Washington’s army and was stationed there a considerable time. He was engaged in skirmishes with British, one of which happened at a place claled the bridle ford, about 30 miles from New York. He was in the country around White Plain about eight months. He was marched under General Gates in a captain Luff’s company various routes through the eastern states until they reached Hillsborough, NC. His term there expired and he was discharged. He returned to Surry County, NC, to a certain William Boyles, who lived in the neighborhood of his brother John Valentine. He was informed that his brother had started in the service a few days before in a company commanded by Capt. William Hulett of Surry County. He pursued his brother to Salisbury in May 1780 and volunteered himself as a private for three months in Capt. Hulitt’s company. From that company he was transferred to Capt. William Bostick’s company in Gen. Rutherford’s army. He marched to Charlotte, then to the Cheraw Hills, SC. Across the Santee River, a party of Tories fired on us. We “immediately returned the salute,” the Tories wounded two of the company, and they killed two or three of the Tories. The Tories ran and “forted themselves” in a large church house. Eaton’s group had taken six British and five Tories. “The next morning we fired on their fort & they left it & run when we saved but one of them & burned the house.” Gen. Rutherford ordered a detachment to march to the River Santee, where they captured some Tories and British and two boats, and then conveyed the twelve prisoners to the main army at a place called Rugeleys Mills, where we remained there for some weeks,during which time a detachment was sent to support Gen. Sumter against the enemy toward the Catawba River. When they reached Sumpter, they were informed he had defeated the enemy so they marched back to the headquarters at the mills. They then marched toward Camden and were in the notorious battle of Gates defeat, in which Christopher was taken prisoner by the British and sent off by a guard. The night after the battle, Christopher and fourteen other prisoners made their escapes and went “unmolested” until they met General Green’s army at the Yadkin River in Rowan County. Gen. Green ordered that rations be given Eaton and the others. This tour lasted three months.

His last service was as a volunteer in the cavalry under Capt. William Shepperd. He mounted his own horse and was marched from Richmond, Surry County, to the old Moravian Town in Surry. Col. Cleveland ordered Christopher’s company to take charge of the prisoners taken at Kings Mountain and deliver them safely to Hillsboro, NC. They put the prisoners into a prison called Stockading prison. Christopher then returned home to William Boyles in Surry County.

He enlisted in Surry County and has resided in the same neighborhood ever since, which after the division of Surry is now Stokes.

Aff. of Joseph Banner, Sr. – Stokes Co., NC, 16 June 1826 – Banner, an aged old man, resident of Stokes – he has been acquainted with Christopher Valentine (or Eater or Eaton) since he was young. Banner knew him when he was an orphan boy bound to Capt. Bynum in then Surry County. Bynum was Banner’s neighbor. Before Christopher served his term to age 21, he ran away and enlisted under Capt. Joseph Eaton at Surry old Courthouse or Richmond. Christopher marched in the army north and was absent from the neighborhood a year and a half. He returned to William Boyles in Banner’s neighborhood and then was immediately in the militia. Banner was informed by Charles Mcanally who was in the Battle of Gates Defeat that Christopher was in the battle and he then expected he was killed or taken prisoner as he was missing for some time. Christopher returned to William Boyles and afterwards Banner saw Christopher at the old Moravian town under Capt. William Shepperd in the cavalry guarding and carrying the prisoners from the Battle of Kings Mountain towards Hillsborough.

Certification of oath of allegiance of Christopher Valentine, signed by Joseph Winston, J.P., Surry Co., NC, is in the file.

Aff. of Joseph Darnall, Stokes Co., NC, 13 Sept. 1832 – Darnall is well acquainted with Christopher Eaton, who now resides in Surry County. He personally knows that Eaton served faithfully as a revolutionary soldier in the militia company commanded by Capt. Absalom Bostick in Col. Armstrong’s regiment under Gen. Rutherford. Eaton entered this service in Surry County in June 1780. They marched to Salisbury, NC, where they joined headquarters and then marched to Cheraw Hills in South Carolina, where they joined General Gates army. They then marched toward Camden where “we fell in with the British when the battle ensued” between Gates and Cornwallis’ armies. Joseph Darnall was not in the battle but Eaton was, he believes. Gates army was routed in the battle and “got home such as could do so the best way they could…” This tour lasted about three months. Darnall served with Eaton during this tour. [signed by mark]

Aff. of Hugh Boyles, Stokes Co., NC, 13 Sept. 1832 – He knew Eaton during the Revolution and always understood that he served in the Revolution.

Aff. of William Merritt, Stokes Co., NC, 13 Mar. 1833 – Merritt was in service at Moravian old town in 1780. There was an Eaton in the service at that time guarding the prisoners taken at Kings mountain and I believe Christopher Eaton is that same man.

Declaration of Susannah Eaton, Stokes Co., NC, 11 June 1846 – resident of Stokes, age 83 – She is the widow of Christopher Eaton, who was placed on the North Carolina pension roll July 24, 1833, at $20 per year and dropped from the roll Aug. 13, 1833. He never received any pension; she supposes that he was unwilling to receive the small amount of $20 per year for his Revolutionary service. Christopher died July 5, 1839.

She married Christopher Eaton in 1781 in Surry Co., NC. [Signed by mark]

87 posted on 04/02/2009 6:42:11 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Drango
Image and video hosting by TinyPic (lighting an H.Upmann)...;0) PFFfffffffffffttttttt!!!!
88 posted on 04/02/2009 6:44:53 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Drango
90% of all smokers start as teenagers.

Not me..... I started at 10 1/2

Of course, I've always been advanced.

you know, I heard "90%" of something being kicked around the other day.... oh yeah... 90% of guns, RPGS, and hand gernades used by mexican catels were bought at US gun shops..... brown...its the new black; "90%" is the new brown. We're really living on the edge here in the 2000's.

Go back to DU. Come back when we don't have to take responsibility for your failure as a parent

Which by the way..... since you are so fond of a Nanny figure taking care of everyone..... isn't it past your bedtime? We may need to call your local reps and have them pass an ordinance to make sure YOU (and only you) are in bed every night by 8:00...... this way you can't blame those nasty consevative FReepers for why you were late to work.

89 posted on 04/02/2009 6:48:38 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

I’m listening....If you have better data on teenage smoking, please post it.


90 posted on 04/02/2009 6:51:39 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango; TigersEye; yorkie

I am so glad I don’t live next to you. Do you enjoy minding other people’s business? If I want to smoke I will & I am so sick of people telling me I can’t. Do you realize how much we smokers pay for YOU & your kind?


91 posted on 04/02/2009 6:58:53 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: pandoraou812
Do you realize how much we smokers pay...

I realize that as of yesterday you pay more. That's a GOOD THING. And I'm glad you don't live next to me also.

92 posted on 04/02/2009 7:02:14 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Thanks for posting that. I enjoyed reading it as it was very interesting. And thanks for the tip on the state archives. I use US GenWeb, Rootsweb and have used Ancestry.


93 posted on 04/02/2009 7:07:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Drango
I take it you support addicting thousands of teenagers every year?

Waxman, go back to the hole you crawled out from under.
94 posted on 04/02/2009 7:09:06 PM PDT by callisto (CONGRESS.EXE corrupted... Re-boot Washington D.C? (Y/N))
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To: Drango

Shaking my head at you. When people stop smoking then YOU & your kind are going to be taxed even more. Glad you don’t mind but I do. By the way teenagers make choices & most of them aren’t good ones until they get older. As for living next to me, I am sure you wouldn’t last a day & that would be a good thing. lmao!


95 posted on 04/02/2009 7:09:07 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: Drango

There might be a good end-around in the US southwest, a plant called “wild tobacco”. Nicotiana rustica, is the strongest of the tobaccos, and unlike typical tobacco, which is about 1-2% nicotine, it is 9% nicotine. It grows wild and needs little maintenance.

While smoking it straight would be a big kick, it would probably best be blended with some tobacco substitute, or blended with tobacco to be a “booster”, delivering a lot more nicotine so a smoker would smoke less overtaxed tobacco.

Importantly, it isn’t regulated, and no license is required to grow it, and best of all, the anti-smoking crowd has likely never heard of it, or certainly never seen it.


96 posted on 04/02/2009 7:19:21 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: pandoraou812; Drango

Drango’s kind is in the WH right now and, yes, we are going to pay a lot for that. Not just money either.


97 posted on 04/02/2009 7:23:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You misunderstand. You are addressing an anti-smoker.


98 posted on 04/02/2009 7:24:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: TigersEye

I think you are correct.


99 posted on 04/02/2009 7:26:22 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: pandoraou812

The world is rife with statists.


100 posted on 04/02/2009 7:34:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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