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Congress isn't helping: Accounting standards now determined by mob rule
Market Watch ^ | April 2 2009 | Commentary

Posted on 04/02/2009 10:59:22 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion

WASHINGTON -- The only thing worse than bankers making up accounting rules is members of Congress making them up.

Repeating its blunder from the 1994 battle over stock options, the staid Financial Accounting Standards Board has buckled to political pressure demanding that it change accounting rules. The FASB voted Thursday to ease the interpretation of rules requiring banks and other big institutions to value their assets on a reasonable basis.

The value of the banks' assets is a huge issue for the global economy right now, because banks are required to have a certain amount of cushion to back up their loans. No cushion, no new lending.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; fasb; mobrule
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So, is changing Mark to Market good, or bad? Your thoughts?
1 posted on 04/02/2009 10:59:22 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion
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2 posted on 04/02/2009 11:00:50 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

One line of thought (not originated by me) is “Don’t Mark-to-Market if you don’t want to, but if you don’t, reveal whatever model you’re using to actually do the ‘marking’”.


4 posted on 04/02/2009 11:03:45 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

If they replace it with the “old” rules (i.e. pre M2M) = good.

If they make up some “new” rules = bad to catstrophic.


5 posted on 04/02/2009 11:04:51 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The auditing firm has to attest to the financial statements so how do they do it?


6 posted on 04/02/2009 11:06:26 AM PDT by ex-snook ( "Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Stinks to high heaven, it is nothing more than a license to commit fraud.
7 posted on 04/02/2009 11:06:42 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: SycoDon

No, it has to do with the trade value of the mortgage and the underlining property.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 11:08:35 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
I heard Steve Forbes discussing it a couple weeks ago on FOX. He basically said that fixing this will fix the financial melt down.

He explained it this way: If you are a borrower who pays your mortgage every month right on schedule regardless whether the market value of your property has dropped or not, then you are not a risk to the bank, but Mark to Market requires the bank to retain more money just because your property is worth less, thus depressing money available for lending. Changing this rule will open up the lending spigots again.

9 posted on 04/02/2009 11:11:46 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Here’s the problem as I see it. Let’s say a bank buys a bunch of lottery tickets. How does the bank value this kind of “investment”? Does it book the sale value of the tickets, the full value of the lottery jackpot, or some model which takes into account the probability of winning the jackpot? It’s a problem inherent in valuing assets which don’t have a fixed value and the more and more meddling in trying to fix a problem like that doesn’t help investors.


10 posted on 04/02/2009 11:13:49 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: garbanzo

Wow. Great take.


11 posted on 04/02/2009 11:18:15 AM PDT by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: org.whodat

The timing of this move is somewhat suspect due to the fact that the Fed is fixing to buy up “toxic assets” in their new public/private partnership. Before they supposedly did not know what these assets were worth or they were worth only pennys on the dollar. Now they get to set their own price and get paid that price by the Fed. It will also create a false bottom in the real estate market. These little regulatory mechanisms are the devices the string pullers use to game the system so the can milk it on the upswing and the downswing.


12 posted on 04/02/2009 11:24:11 AM PDT by Steel Bill
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To: Steel Bill

True, those in the know, are the political connected will milk this program like a herd of Holsteins. That is what they are designing it for.


13 posted on 04/02/2009 11:28:12 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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Shouldn’t be long, my property will be 3X it’s actual value again.


14 posted on 04/02/2009 11:31:07 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: w1andsodidwe

Right. The true value is the net present value of the anticipated income from the loans, which takes into account both the good payers who will more than likely pay in full and those with poor credit and unlikely to pay and will have to be written off - and the value of some of those holdings will be close to zero once you figure in the management fees, cleanup, and taxes. That is why some of the banks are stopping the foreclosures.

So the question is how do we know what percentage is “bad” (given the fact that 0 is screwing things up more each day which translates into more unemployed people)and HOW MUCH these properties will eventually be worth.

Whatever happens, it is beyond our control anyway.


15 posted on 04/02/2009 11:36:30 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this..")
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To: Realism

Could be higher than that, but then no one will buy it at that price either. Supply and demand determines value, not the government!


16 posted on 04/02/2009 11:36:39 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
So, is changing Mark to Market good, or bad?

It is very GOOD!

The MBS's are valued at 0 right now even though they are producing 70-90% of the anticipated cash flow. IOW, only 10-30% of the mortgages that are bundled together are non performing. If a mark to model approach is taken it would make a lot more sense.

17 posted on 04/02/2009 11:38:59 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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The auditing firm has to attest to the financial statements so how do they do it?

Based on cash flow.

18 posted on 04/02/2009 11:40:51 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

10 years from now I’ll be worth $100 million. Really. And if I’m not, the taxpayers can bail me out. Does THAT sound like a good idea to you?


19 posted on 04/02/2009 11:52:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Bookwoman
Those who are criticizng this change in accounting policy should realize that it's only been in effect for about two years, and some critics say it was instrumental in triggering the financial crisis. Earlier posters have alroeady pointed out why it can make a financial institution's books seem in far worse shape than they really are.


20 posted on 04/02/2009 11:55:01 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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