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Time to settle the “flying saucers” question.....
Ria Novosti ^ | April 2nd, 2009

Posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:54 AM PDT by TaraP

MOSCOW. (Andrei Kislyakov, for RIA Novosti) - So do UFOs with little green men inside exist or not? CNN supposedly filmed a UFO moving at a great speed from the right to the left during the inauguration of President Barack Obama. (But those who watched the replay say it was a bird.)

After that, former President Clinton's White House Chief John Podesta, now one of Obama's closest associates, demanded that the thick UFO files be made public.

The number of UFO sightings has dramatically increased in recent times. According to Britain's Ministry of Defense, there were supposedly 285 UFO sightings in the UK in 2008, double the figure for 2007, when the number of alleged UFO sightings was reckoned at 137. (UFOs attacking Ukraine. Video UFO seen over Moscow during Russia - Netherlands match.

The defense departments of the United States and the Soviet Union scrupulously registered alleged sightings of UFOs for decades. American ufologists say that the U.S. authorities were quite serious about the UFO question in the 1940s through 1960s.

Project Blue Book, terminated in 1969, had two goals: to determine if UFOs were a threat to national security, and to scientifically analyze UFO-related data.

The USAF concluded that UFOs are not a threat to national security. Paradoxically, the military still refuse to provide information about UFOs for security reasons.

Ufologists insist that the USAF must give them access to certain documents, such as Project Moon Dust and Project Blue Fly.

Project Moon Dust was started in 1953, ostensibly to recover "returning space debris." Operation Blue Fly was launched to facilitate expeditious delivery to Foreign Technology Division of moon dust and other items of great technological intelligence interest. It is assumed that they were in fact connected with UFOs.

According to ufologists, the U.S. military also have kept the bodies of extraterrestrials who died in spaceship crashes over the United States.

The most widely known of such episodes, the Roswell Incident, took place in New Mexico on July 2, 1947, when an object crash-landed on a ranch approximately 75 miles northwest of Roswell, leaving a large field of debris.

The local air base at Roswell investigated the incident and announced that they had recovered a "flying disk." In fact, the crash was seen by a number of people. There were allegedly alien bodies found in the disk, but the film showing their autopsy was later denounced as a fraud.

If UFOs existed and military units were investigating them, there should also be a place for their deployment. This is Area 51, also known as Groom Lake, a secret military facility about 90 miles north of Las Vegas. At the center of it there is a large air base the government will not discuss about. The Roswell story speaks of alien bodies and wreckage being taken to a "Hangar 18" in Area 51.

Space photographs of the area show a huge landing strip crisscrossing the area and strange circles that can be interpreted as traces of landing of huge "flying saucers." Ufologists are convinced that this is so.

As President, George W. Bush moved Area 51 from the Nevada jurisdiction to that of the Pentagon and Washington. Slightly more than 10 years ago, civilian aircraft were prohibited to fly over the area.

The archives of the former Soviet Union are filled to capacity with data about contacts with extraterrestrials. They contain records of over 20,000 UFO sightings. The Academy of Sciences and the Defense Ministry both undertook investigations under the secret project names of Setka, Galaktika and Gorizont.

It is even said that "competent agencies," meaning the secret services, established contact with aliens and waited for their arrival to Earth. The media is now writing about a team of General Staff officers and academicians waiting for the arrival of an UFO in the Kyzylkum desert in June 1991.

Clearly, humans will always strive to search for beings of humanoid form in the Universe. But it is also apparent that apart from tall tales about "little green men" there are also facts that logically point to the presence of alien intelligence on the Earth.

In this case, maybe the time has come for the U.S. and Russian authorities to declassify information on unidentified flying objects and their masters?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: clintonista; kookfringe; kooks; moonbat; newagemorons; obamadministration; podesta; ufo
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To: mkjessup

More like the school teachers in Mao’s China responsible for indoctrinating the masses. Don’t question ... Just believe.


201 posted on 04/04/2009 10:28:47 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: topcat54; Quix; TaraP

As usual, you have it completely backwards.

You and your ilk want to put on your psychological blinders and refuse to consider anything that conflicts with your (in your case I suspect it is your deeply held religious faith) traditional beliefs and values. YOU are in fact the epitome of that Maoist practice of ‘believing’ and never questioning, you are AFRAID to face the question of whether or not there are life forms that are not indigenous to this Earth, let alone the question of any interactions between such life forms and ourselves, be it in the air, on the ground, or on the water.

You are AFRAID. You can deny it, you can laugh it off, but the fact is your closed mind confirms it beyond doubt. If this thread were in fact based on the goal of DISPROVING the UFO incidents involving that JAL plane and our own KC-135, you would have signed off on such a conclusion (”it wasn’t real, it didn’t happen, it was nothing at all”) immediately and at once, and you would not at all have required nor would you have demanded any evidence of it, the proclamation “it didn’t happen” would have been more than sufficient for your closed mind and your limited intellect.

Quite frankly, those who view such events with an open mind (such as Bruce Maccabee, to name just one) are among the most skeptical of all, because of the plethora of hoaxes, stunts, deliberate misinformation from government(s), and the cottage industry of Klass-inspired debunkers and amateurs like yourself.

Those who do not engage the automatic kneejerk reaction such as you do are those who will discover what is and what isn’t true. Whatever is ultimately revealed to be the reality of UFOs will pass you by completely because you will still have your fingers stuck in your damn ears, chanting “nah-nah-nah, UFOs don’t exist, not true, no way no how, can’t hear you, UFOs are a myth”, ad nauseum.

You choose to bask in your self-imposed ignorance, and what is sad is that you’re unable to comprehend your own muzzled intellect.

I pity you.


202 posted on 04/04/2009 12:30:37 PM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: mkjessup

Hmmmmmmm . . . what a plausible description.


203 posted on 04/04/2009 2:15:17 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mkjessup

INDEED.

Actually, the naysayers are chronically wrong about my PhD in Clinical Psych as well . . . as Joya can attest . . . having seen the documents as I prepared them for various projects.

However, it’s fun watching them make utter ignorant fools of themselves about such.

Shoot—even Jr High kids can see enough evidence in my postings to not need to see the PhD degree! LOL.


204 posted on 04/04/2009 2:17:43 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mkjessup

For the same reason an elementary school teacher tries to educate little children who have little grasp of any reality beyond the scope of their milk and cookies.
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INDEED!


205 posted on 04/04/2009 2:18:24 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Ahhhhhhhh . . .

the carbon black soot factory

calling someone else black!

LOL! ROTFOL!


206 posted on 04/04/2009 2:19:13 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

It’s soooooo rich when naysayers

are sooooooooooooooooo compulsively determined to parade their ignorance . . .

such even, as their ignorance about me!


207 posted on 04/04/2009 2:20:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mkjessup

Yeah, wellllll

ammonia nitrates

seem to be the only thing some folks know how to trade in, at all.

Pity, that!


208 posted on 04/04/2009 2:21:27 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mkjessup

WELL PUT.

THX.


209 posted on 04/04/2009 2:23:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; mkjessup
Shoot—even Jr High kids can see enough evidence in my postings to not need to see the PhD degree! LOL.

I've seen it.


210 posted on 04/04/2009 6:03:31 PM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: topcat54; Marysecretary; Joya

MUCH APPRECIATED.

Such stunts should hasten the educational lessons required toward enlightened Christian integrity.

The priests and nuns of early childhood must have

REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY

done a number on some of these naysayers. Some have clearly yet to recover.


211 posted on 04/04/2009 6:10:09 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP
Aliens IMHO are Fallen Angels....

New Age crap. 

212 posted on 04/05/2009 6:54:08 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn
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To: mkjessup
Klass is again, speculating. He doesn't know.

Forgive my being late to this party, Jessup, but I see you're in yet another fruitless attempt to prove you're smarter than a 5th grader.

Klass was speculating. He's been dead for several years. Try and keep up.

213 posted on 04/05/2009 7:08:27 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn
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To: mkjessup

Soviet incompetence.


214 posted on 04/05/2009 7:11:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: TaraP
If a flying saucer zips across the sky at a blink of an eye wouldn't it create a sonic boom?
215 posted on 04/05/2009 7:30:48 AM PDT by vigilante2 (Don't tread on me)
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To: JoeProBono
Yea I saw that episode of SG-1. Pretty well done. /s
216 posted on 04/05/2009 7:36:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Klass is again, speculating. He doesn't know.
Forgive my being late to this party, Jessup, but I see you're in yet another fruitless attempt to prove you're smarter than a 5th grader.


Wellll look who we have here! JoJo the Three Neuron Idjit! What happened, the carnival side show layin' off workers due to the recession?

Klass was speculating. He's been dead for several years. Try and keep up.

At the time Klass commented, he was still alive, which is why I used simple present tense, for simpletons like you who might be strolling by trying to find something to do to make their day meaningful.

Say hello to your Grandmother, or did the carnival lay off the bearded lady as well? Always nice to hear from you JoJo, stay on the meds this time, ok?
217 posted on 04/05/2009 8:32:53 AM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: JoJo Gunn; TaraP
Aliens IMHO are Fallen Angels....
New Age crap.


Stick with 'JoJo Gunn', 'New Age crap' just doesn't work for you as a nom de plume.

Stay with what works.
218 posted on 04/05/2009 8:35:01 AM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: mkjessup
At the time Klass commented, he was still alive....

Holy crap, Jessup, you're a regular "intellectual"! 

219 posted on 04/05/2009 8:53:40 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn
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To: JoJo Gunn
Holy crap, Jessup, you're a regular "intellectual"!

Compared to you dirtbag, I'm the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth.
220 posted on 04/05/2009 8:56:10 AM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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